What will you do support the war movement or an anti war movement

[EndersDame]

Poll question: What will you do support the war movement or an anti war movement

just askin'

On edit : I personally dont support the escalation but have more respect for people who will sacrifice in some way (on either side) because the whole country should be engaged rather than just playing on the X box (like my brother) and not caring

[WonderGrunion]

1. I will post on the internet my support for the Afghanistan War

in such a way as to inflame the anti-war people into such fits of response that I effectively neutralize them and remove them from actively showing opposition to the war.

Genius!

[LakeSamish706]

7. Good luck with that! n/t

[WonderGrunion]

12. You should see some of the responses to my posts

I think it's working beyond my wildest dreams. I also think 23 poll voters on this question overestimate how much they will actually protest this.

[Bjorn Against]

14. I am not overestimating anything, I have already been in three protests this week

And I have at least four more protests that are already on my schedule for the next week, my hope is that the others who voted in the poll will also get out there and I think many of them will.

[WonderGrunion]

15. Well all 29 of you should do a decent job of blocking traffic for 30 minutes.

Good luck with that.

[Bjorn Against]

16. Hey at least we aren't celebrating killing children like you are.

[WonderGrunion]

17. I'm not celebrating the killing of children.

I just have no empathy for their deaths. There's a difference between apathy and celebration.

[Bjorn Against]

19. Well whether it is apathy or celebration it is disgusting.

[WonderGrunion]

20. I'm fine with you being disgusted at my apathy

But don't mis-characterize it as celebration or enjoyment.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

32. If you're going to pretend that supporting the war means I support every action or death

that results, than the opposite is also true. If you support an immediate withdrawal, then you must, by your very logic, be in favor of the Taliban's blowing up of civilians in market, throwing acid in girls' faces for daring to attend school, shooting teachers in the back the of head, etc. etc. Surely you see how unfair it is for me to accuse you of such things.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

30. Supporting a withdrawal would clearly aid the Taliban, who have no qualms about killing children.

So how you can sit there and pretend this is a major issue for you is beyond me.

[AndrewP]

35. Yes, we should go fuck ourselves because it's only a gesture, right?

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

36. Well, no, if you believe in it strongly enough, go for it. More power to ya.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

31. I admire your dedication to what you believe me, even if I disagree with it

[EndersDame]

28. ...

:patriot: :)

[Luminous Animal]

2. Do what I have been doing for the past 5 years.

Work to get out of this brutal torturing military-supremacist country.

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. How well has that strategy worked out so far?

:shrug:

[Luminous Animal]

24. I'm still saving and doing a pretty good job of it.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

33. It's taken you five years and you still haven't made it out of the country?

Dude, just head down south and walk across the border. It's pretty easy.

[SIMPLYB1980]

41. LoL!

:toast:

[Luminous Animal]

47. Dude, I've got a family to raise.

And I am not planning on living across the border.

[MadBadger]

3. Neither.

[LostInAnomie]

4. Meh...

I'll probably just post threads redundant to about thirty other threads on the front page of GD.

[EndersDame]

5. I applaud your honesty!

[Dogmudgeon]

9. That's my plan.

I think I'll also rant that I have a bigger, badder conscience than anyone else, and accuse everyone who disagrees with me of being KKKorpr08 Mass-Turds who want to oppress me into silence.

But then again, I drink an awful lot of coffee for an 11-year-old girl. Fortunately, I'm a 51-year-old man.

--d!

[femmocrat]

6. Other: I will support anti-war candidates. n/t

[Bjorn Against]

8. I have already participated in three protests this week and have another one on Saturday

One of those three protests was an unpermitted march through the streets of downtown Minneapolis in the midst of rush hour traffic. There was no designated parade route, we just turned on to any busy city street that we felt like turning on to. There were police everywhere, and every single person in that march risked arrest. I have already fought against this escalation and I am going to keep fighting, I hope to see other DUers in the streets with me.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

37. You're in Minneapolis AND like Born Against?

[Ozymanithrax]

10. I support President Obama's policy in Afghanistan...

I am a retired veteran, having served 20 years.

I advocate the passage of a war tax, that will be required to pay as we go anytime the U.S. puts soldiers in the field.

I also advocate the passage of a draft with no exceptions. Conscientious objectors and those who are disabled can work in military hospitals caring for the wounded, or maintaining military facilities in the U.S. If we are going to war, everybody should have skin in the game, everybody should pay their share.

I advocate the end of the U.S. empire, removal of all military personnel from foreign bases. If we do not feel a need for a world wide imperial presence, wars will be fewer.

I gladly pay my users fees as a citizen of the United States. I have encourage and will encourage people to enlist. I've also explained why it isn't glorious or fun to fight in a war.

Having served in wartime, and seen first hand the ugliness of combat, I am anti-war.

[EndersDame]

27. I respect your position

I cant stand people who support a war but do not realize that it takes sacrifice (blood money and morale)

[FrenchieCat]

11. I support the exit plan President Obama has proposed.......

I don't support war,
but unfortunately,
it had already started by the time he got there.

[Bjorn Against]

13. Sending 30,000 more troops in is not an exit plan

And it doesn't make it any better when he says he is going to START pulling troops out in eighteen months but gives no clue as to how many months or years it will be before all of them are out.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

38. If we're truly going to splinter the Taliban

the only way we can do it is from a position of strength. Adding 30,000 troops is a huge step towards that goal.

[Thickasabrick]

18. I think it would be really cool if you could buy "Peace Bonds". None of these

funds could be used for anything military related but could be used for education, or medical research - progressive stuff. I think I would buy those.

[WonderGrunion]

21. Education peace bonds exist - They call them "bake sales"

I buy "peace bonds" at my local school every time I see peanut butter fudge.

[Thickasabrick]

23. Sorry, too many carbs and little kid germs. nt

[WonderGrunion]

25. And they accuse me of hating children.

:eyes:

[Thickasabrick]

26. LOL...I don't hate them - I just don't want to be around them. nt

[EndersDame]

29. Have you noticed how many bake sales just resell store stuff

[TexasObserver]

34. Hard to believe the military has to run recruitment commercials, isn't it?

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

39. For the first time (since '73), the U.S. military is meeting all of its recruitment goals

http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/10/14/28745-army-meets-recruiting-goals-for-quantity-quality/

[TexasObserver]

42. Hard to believe the military has to run recruitment commercials, isn't it?

It's the worst recession since the Great Depression, unemployment is over 10%, and you think there's any other reason the volunteer Army met its quotas for the first time in 36 years? If that were true, they would not be accepting drop outs, foreigners, and criminals.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

43. Here, you should've read the article further

"Last year, some 95 percent of Army active-duty recruits had a high-school diploma or greater. The reserve components of the Army also exceeded that standard."

[TexasObserver]

44. Doesn't change the facts I stated.

Any 8th grader should be able to get a GED.

You completely fail to acknowledge the truth: recruitment goals are only being met because people are so desperate to have any job. It isn't a statement regarding the willingness of gung ho war advocates suddenly deciding they would put their skin their mouth is.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

45. The economic situation is certainly a factor, I never argued otherwise

Where you got that idea is beyond me. Keep beating down those straw men, my friend.

[walldude]

40. The problem is, you can engage the whole country it won't

make a damn bit of difference. Protests, letter writing, screeds and rants on the intertubes. Nothing will help. If you haven't noticed, all we are to them is the endless source of money and if they can't get what they need from us they will steal it from our children and grandchildren. There are very few in government right now actually looking out for the people of this country.

The only way things are ever going to change for the better is to start with campaign finance reform. Then reform lobbying. All the corporate money needs to be removed from politics. The government is supposed to be ours, you know by the people for the people. The government right now is nothing but a collection agent for the corporations. Steal from us, give it to them. Then they use it to build bigger better weapons and to make sure their new yacht has solid gold faucets.

[closeupready]

46. I do not support escalation, and I do not know precisely what I will do.

Depends on how badly it goes.

I am already protesting - right here. I will also send letters and make phone calls.

What I will NOT do is let people like the threadstarter diminish my meager (as it may be) efforts as 'just posting on the internet'.