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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:31 AM Original message |
REALITY CHECK: 40% identify as Conservative, 36% as Moderate, 20% as Liberal |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. You can't win with some people. They will claim that "corporatist Gallup" cooked the poll. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I do believe Gallup swings a little to the right. But only a little. And therefore pretty accurate |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I question all polls in general... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I do too but look at the facts. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Honestly, this is very similar to people who deny evolution because it is counter-intuitive to them. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I don't think it's that cut and dry. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I agree with that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Yep... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. The poster is right about Kentucky though. |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. Ummm, I wasn't bashing polling.... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. They make an effort to poll a sample that will reflect the population |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. Reality Check....Democrats won HUGE Mandates in 2006 and 2008 |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Moderates and "sane" conservatives helped do that. They need to be cultivated. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Huh? |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. The framing of the poll is questionable... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Yes I think teabaggers are about 10 to 15% of the population at best |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. No way, try < 3%. |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. The problem is after 30 years of con labeling liberals as anti-american |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Absolutely true |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. True and they may call themselves progressives. |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Didn't I also read somewhere.... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. Yeah, we know |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
8. REALITY CHECK: Conservative policies are destroying the country |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. I missed the part where I advocated for Conservative policies or being happy with the status quo |
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ThomThom (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. Republican policies are destroying this country. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
10. Reality Check: if asked to explain, & show their work, so to say, most Americans would reveal... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I acknowledge that in my original post. |
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athenasatanjesus (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
14. The media is basically libertarian so most people are basically libertarian |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
31. The cable media is motivated by money. Ad dollars mean profits, So they make sensational |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. REALITY CHECK: We just had 8 yrs of the "conservative revolution" |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I missed the part where I advocated for more of the Bush years. |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. That was more of a shot at conservatives who might be reading this as good news... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. I wonder how many would have chosen "None of above"? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Probably a very small percentage on the left and the right. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
22. How many of those "moderates" are actually "liberals"? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. That's one of the groups we need to work with -- that's why I don't want to live in a bubble |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yes, solid idea, and important for a movement - BUT... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Some people aren't reachable. We just have to face that fact. The "True Believers" |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. Labels like "conservative" and "liberal" mean little in a poll like this. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I acknowledge that in my original post. We need to be able to talk to those people |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. I know-- I'm saying the labels don't matter. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I often say we need to get better Democrats into office. To me that is really |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Especially when you ask people exactly what policies they do want. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. True - but "self-identify" is the key concept. We need to be able to communicate |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
38. And this isn't only Gallup either. The fact is that most people are moderate/conservative |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
41. 40% are Conservatards in the US |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. The term liberal got so much bad press over the last 30 years many people shun it. |
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ThomThom (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
45. Fortunately there is no conservative party |
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ThomThom (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. The people don't know what these labels mean or stand for |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
46. a lot of people don't realize that they have liberal values... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Precisely |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
47. 40% batshit crazy, 36% non-commital weaklings, 20% rational...nt |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. Well, I'm sorta conservative too. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
51. The democratic party tosses liberals aside at their own peril... |
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