Why isnt Vince McMahon in Jail.

[brettdale]

Edward Fatu has died at the age of 36 from a heart attack.
Another wrestlers to died who were employed by WWE over the years are.

Road Warrior Hawk
Yokozuna (34)
Test (33)
Earthquake (42)
Rick Rude (40)
Owen hart (34) - not really his fault!
Mr Perfect (44)
Miss Elizabeth (42)
Junk Yard Dog (45)
Hercules (47)
Eddie Guererro
Davey Boy Smith (39)
Crush (44)
Chris Benoit - took his wife and son with him
Big Boss Man (41)
Bam Bam Bigelow (45)
Andre The Giant (46)



You think legal action would be taken against Vince McMahon.

If a film director, wanted his actors to bulk up for a series of movies, and there ended up being this many deaths over the years, he would be had up in court.

Why not Vince??

[grantcart]

1. Why do people watch his crap?

[valerief]

6. That's the better question. nt

[liberalhistorian]

42. That's an excellent question, the answer to which I've always

been curious. And as for those participating-no one forces them to do so at gunpoint. It's their own choice to participate.

[TexasObserver]

2. For the same reason the NBA's David Stern isn't.

Their job is to sell entertainment.

That pro wrestlers take steroids and other things bad for them is not news. That the NBA uses its officials to manipulate games, to sell players and products, is not news, either. WWF or NBA, there isn't a lot of difference, except one is more obvious and has fewer rules of conduct.

I'm not taking up for McMahon, just showing he's another charlatan snake oil salesman, like Stern over at the NBA.

[catzies]

36. Minor threadjack - last night's 60 Minutes with that ref Donaghy broke my heart

I have been a proud and devoted fan of the NBA for over 20 years.

Last night's interview on 60 Minutes makes me feel that the NBA might as well be the WWE.

It was real to me, dammit. :cry:

/end threadjack

[TexasObserver]

46. That's the reason I brought him up in this discussion.

McMahon, Stern. Little difference.

[JonLP24]

47. Really?

He doesn't have any proof plus he's the one that get into trouble--no one else got caught after an investigation. Until I see some evidence I'm not buying it.

[catzies]

48. I too would like evidence. Think we'll get any?

I know until then it's conjecture at best, but AFAIC where there's smkoe there's fire.

[JonLP24]

51. He said he wouldn't be able too when asked if he could prove it

However there was one thing that particularly struck me. I forgot what it was but it was something about an exchange with Charles Barkley baffling stuff. Anyways he responded saying "That's BS". Say what you want about Barkley but he generally speaks the truth and doesn't pretend to be someone else and frankly I trust CB more then this guy.

What this does is there is referee in the NBA that goes by the name Bob Delaney. He wrote a book called "Covert" and it's very similar to Donnie Brasco(they actually crossed paths and didn't know each other was undercover at the time) and I actually enjoyed his story more then Donnie Brasco. Anyways he spent years risking his life infiltrating the mob doing honorable stuff there and I just can't help but think of him being tainted by this when he possibly may not deserve it. Sorry rambling. :)

[catzies]

57. You're not rambling; I read every word and like you I agree with Sir Charles often

Chuck is an awesome and very outspoken and (mostly) honest guy who always says what he thinks.

I remember Bob Delaney; didn't know he wrote a book so I will look for it.

This is just my personal bias talking; but after seeing the refs hand Jordan his 6th ring, and the infamous Sacramento-Los Angeles 2002 WCF series, and so many other examples I can't name off the top of my head, I guess I just want closure to the "We've been had" voice in my head.

I always thought the crookedest ref was Dick Bavetta anyway. When he was sent to ref a game 6 in a playoff series you knew the fix was in.

I'm still a broken-hearted fan who feels cheated.

[JonLP24]

58. He sure did seem to have a case for the LA-Sac game

It was the exchanges between players(Barkley) and the inside league private of disciplining officials for not calling a game in their favor just seems far out there. OTL showed significant parts of the interview but whenever they were showing the highlights of the LA-Sac game while he was talking showed a somewhat convincing case but still lacking a smoking gun. I can see there may be some truth to what he is saying though.

[d_b]

3. Vince can't kill Dusty Rhodes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHiQ2LfHxcA

[NightWatcher]

4. Road Warrior Hawk is dead?

(left)

dude, I missed that, whoa back in 2003, I liked them when I was ten

[d_b]

7. sad, eh?

Mr. Perfect too =/

[glen123098]

5. His wife is running for senate.

I hope this kills her chances of winning.

[SteppingRazor]

38. Meh. She's got as much chance of winning the Connecticut Republican primary as I do.

There's five candidates in the race, and Rob Simmons is leading the closest contender by something like 30 points.

[npk]

8. Actually the Federal government has been going after him for years

They tried three times in the early 90's to bring him up on charges of both tax evasion and steroid charges and in 1994 he was put on trial for distributing steroids. Unfortunately the Feds were never able to make anything stick.

[MichaelHarris]

9. I think

the people that watch that crap should be in jail.

[proteus_lives]

16. Your hobbies and interests suck too.

You should be in jail for whatever you enjoy in your spare time.

Wow, now I sound interesting and clever just like you.

[MichaelHarris]

24. not really

you sound bitter and hateful. I'm sure a good gun stroking will cheer you right up.

[proteus_lives]

25. No need,

You have cornered the market on stoking yourself. You don't even need to fetch an external object. Your ego is always there and lubed up.

So, what are your interests and hobbies. No matter what they are, they are ripe for mockery.

And since you feel the need to judge others, I assume your not very confidant or proud of them.

[MichaelHarris]

26. mock away man

I have absolutely no concern for what you think. I have very thick skin and a proclivity not to care what typed voices on a blog actually say.

[proteus_lives]

39. When why did you respond?

And if you have proclaim that you have thick skin, then that means you probably don't.

[MichaelHarris]

45. to

piss you off, that should have been obvious.

[bluedigger]

59. Hey! That's my mom you're talking about!

Can't choose your parents...:rofl:

[niceypoo]

10. Legal action for what?

Not sure what your accusation is.

[rd_kent]

11. In jail for what?

What crime (other than getting rednecks to obsess over men fake wrestling) has he committed?

[Shell Beau]

14. You'd be surprised at who some of the fans actually are. Not rednecks.

Let me clarify that I am not a fan.

[rd_kent]

44. Never said all of them were.

[Lucian]

41. I'm not a redneck.

I watch wrestling because it's something my dad and I used to do together when I was a kid.

[rd_kent]

43. Good for you.

Thats great. Im glad you enjoy it.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

12. On what charge?

[flvegan]

13. So...you're blaming their deaths on "bulking up" now?

Okay then.

Oh, you left out Kerry Von Erich who killed himself. He worked for Vince for 3 or 4 years.

[Ohio Joe]

15. Those are just a few, here are many more

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtKaVXpzf0CgcGVOd1l3REtoLUlXbWhGY1gtN3BZTVE&hl=en

[Blue_Tires]

28. holy fuckin' DAMN

a whole lot of colorful names on that list I had long forgotten about...I knew there were some, but I didn't know there were THAT many...

[Ohio Joe]

30. A lot of people don't realize just how many...

I agree with the OP, the fault lies on Vince. Yes, it is true some are not his fault but a lot of them are his fault. A wrestler cannot make enough money to support himself unless Vince will give him the "push" and to do that he must push himself over the edge. As much as I love pro-wrestling, I have not watched it in years because I cannot support something with this high if a cost.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

33. There are plenty of wrestlers who never worked for Vince....

....that do the same things. It's a mentality of the business.

[VenusRising]

35. They left David Von Erich off that list.

That family has had nothing but tragedy.

[unabelladonna]

17. i despise wrestling

but no one held a gun to their heads.

[TreasonousBastard]

18. Only if they go after the NFL first...

it's gotten so bad that Congress had them on the spot for keeping players on the field with concussions. The latest contract rounds are talking about dementia suffered by retired players with head injuries.

And all those high school and college kids fucked up for the rest of their lives with their injuries...

[951-Riverside]

19. No! lets not look at the WWE lets continue looking at Baseball and Barry Bonds

:sarcasm:

[TlalocW]

20. While I agree with your sentiment

This is also a business - while scripted - where
1. the participants are still putting a terrible toll on their bodies
2. some of them are unhealthy to begin with - Fatu did weigh over 350 pounds; Andre the Giant had acromegaly, which he did not get treatment for

TlalocW

[BulletproofLandshark]

21. I'm pretty sure he couldn't be held responsible for some of those.

Yokozuna - Fluid in the lungs. He weighed nearly 600 pounds when he died.
JYD - Car crash
Earthquake - Cancer

[LostInAnomie]

22. For what?

That list is pretty dishonest really. Andre the Giant died of a heart attack related to disease that made him so large. Yokozuna weighed 600 lbs. and died of heart failure. Earthquake died of cancer. You surely can't blame their deaths on Vince McMahon.

Some of the other ones are large men that had heart attacks. Others are people that abused illegal drugs which are expressly forbidden in their contracts.

[Historic NY]

23. Good thing them steriods.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

27. I hate Vince.....

But in fairness.......the WWE ordered Fatu to rehab for "recreational" drugs and he refused. That is why he was released. Steroids were not his issue.

Also......Junkyard Dog died in a car crash when he fell asleep at the wheel driving home from his daughter's graduation years after he retired. Yokozuna battled weight problems his entire life, which killed him. Earthquake John Tenta died of cancer (bladder) that I don't think was related to steroids whatsoever. And finally, Andre had agromagelia, a thyroid condition that causes one to grow unusually large in the extremities and the heart.

If you are going to indict the guy, don't just post a list without some research.

[beyond cynical]

29. Are you kidding me...?

One man cannot be responsible of the stupidity of so many people.

[brettdale]

56. Could the same thing be said

What About George W Bush then, all those soldiers signed up werent drafted.

[loyalkydem]

31. He's

still around?

[Freddie Stubbs]

32. What specific laws do you have evidence of him breaking?

:shrug:

[rd_kent]

34. hey brettdale.....whats the deal with this hit and run post? There are a lot of questions for you!

Namely, for what charge should he be in jail for? And why?


Or do you just hit and run?

[brettdale]

55. Heres the deal

Lets use say Walmart for an example if a number of employees died at walmart over a period of a few years, people here would want walmart up in court.

The fact is, even though these guys might sign a contract saying they wont use drugs, Im sure
there is a hush hush wink wink thing going on.

If any business had this many deaths over a cetain time period there would be questions asked.

The fact is these guys are users, and they have been dying for entertainment purposes.

[hughee99]

37. I'm not sure you can blame Andre the Giant on Vince either...

Andre's "bulking up" was due to a pituitary disorder.

[hfojvt]

53. I was gonna say that too - he was 'naturally' huge.

[Lucian]

40. His wife is running for Senator in Connecticut, as a Republican, surprise, surprise.

They won't do shit to him now.

[SIMPLYB1980]

49. Because he hasn't done anything wrong?

[Dr. Strange]

50. Nothing wrong?

Three letters: XFL.

[SIMPLYB1980]

52. Well that was a very bad idea, but not enough to

incarcerate over.

Conan clowns the XFL!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQyr2NkjyA&feature=player_embedded

Vince McMahon sells the XFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fdPltPJRU&feature=related

[DainBramaged]

54. BAM BAM DIED??????

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[DainBramaged]

60. Miss Elizabeth was NOT a wrestler, nonetheless

She died as a result of a drug overdose in 2003 at the age of 42 in the home of Lex Luger.