Holy crap - look at this lake - it's suppose to be ice and it keeps

[Thickasabrick]

getting bigger.

The small plane banks and skims a lonely pass and we find what we have been looking for: at Thulagi's snout is a milk-blue lake marked on few maps. It has doubled in size in just a few years and is held back only by a low wall of dead ice and earth. If Thulagi carries on melting at the present rate, nothing will stop billions of litres of water bursting through this natural dam and devastating villages, farmland and everything below.

Thulagi is one of 20 steadily growing glacial lakes in Nepal which mountain communities and scientists fear will inevitably rupture if the growth in greenhouse gas emissions is not stemmed by world leaders at the Copenhagen climate summit. Average temperatures across Nepal have risen 1.6C in 50 years – twice the global average. But here on the roof of the world, in what is called the "third pole", they are already nearly 4C above normal and on track to rise by as much as 8C by 2050.

Temperature rises like this in the Himalayas would be a catastrophe. It is not just the future of a few mountain communities at stake but the lives of nearly one in four people in the world, all of whom rely on the Himalayas for water. Nepalese rivers alone provide water for 700 million people in India and Bangladesh. "If there is less snow in the Himalayas, or the monsoon rains weaken, or the glaciers melt with climate change, then all south Asian farming, industry, water supplies and cities will suffer," said Nepalese climate specialist Ngamindra Dahal.

On a 1,000-mile journey from the world's greatest water source in the Himalayas, down rivers and then by train through Nepal, India and Bangladesh to the Bay of Bengal, we saw evidence of profound changes in weather patterns right across south Asia. Wherever we went we were told of significant temperature increases, and found governments slowly waking up to the threat of climate change and communities having to respond in any way they could to erratic rains and more serious droughts, floods and storms.

Really good article with video:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/06/copenhagen-climate-change-himalayas

[JVS]

1. Just because the lake doesn't fulfill your expectations is no reason to ostracise it.

Poor little fellow is going to get a complex if you keep knocking it.

[defendandprotect]

2. Truth is, the call on damage to the planet wasn't early....it was LATE . . .

Indusrial Revolution ---

and I'd guess atomic weapons didn't help -- !!!

PLUS, the greed of those who control our nation's natural resources ---

We CANNOT continue to burn fossil fuels -- !!!

[Tejas]

3. Meanwhile, it snowed on the Gulf Coast - nt

[Thickasabrick]

4. I heard 3 different RW idiots comment on the snow in Houston and

global warming "yup - that blows Gore's theory all to hell"

I really do not know what it will take to educate these morons.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. I assume the morons are what your name implies.

No hope for enlightenment.

[timeforpeace]

6. It's been long established that cold weather means global warming also. We can't lose this one.

[BrklynLiberal]

8. Never underestimate the stupidity of irrational groups.

Always remember....

“The Dilbert Principle: People are idiots.”

[sudopod]

15. You do understand the difference between climate and weather

right?

[ThomThom]

37. global climate change

just calling it global warming is confusing people and anecdotal evidence like one snow in Houston is meaningless
Only the people from Michigan could handle 1/2 inch of snow in Houston.

[alfredo]

9. I bet when they close their eyes the world ceases to exist.

[BrklynLiberal]

10. They think so anyway...kind of like the light going out when you close the fridge door.

[Thickasabrick]

11. ...

:rofl:

[alfredo]

19. They are jealous of the intelligence of that light bulb.

[Tejas]

20. Like most earthers, your tact...

isn't.

If you want to sell something, childish rudeness and condescension are not the key.

[fascisthunter]

25. how about listening to those who know what they are talking about

rather than dismissing something you don't understand. By the way, mind telling me what an "earther" is... if they are earthers, what the hell are you?

[Tejas]

27. When they're being discredited, don't think so.

Get off your holier-than-thou kick and quit worshiping Gore, that ship has BEEN sinking.



Geez, the pissy-parrot attitude that some cop around here when someone disagrees with them is hilarious.

[fascisthunter]

28. ...not only are you ignorant, you don't even have a clue what you are talkin' about

for me to have a debate with you, I would need to teach you everything you don't want to even consider. And so, here ya are, wasting your time, trying to discredit something you have no grasp of... if ya did, you'd care more about the conference being successful than talking shit about people private flying jets.

You made your point... you don't want there to be an effort to deal with global warming. Now go play minds games with yourself... you ain't foolin' no one but yourself.

[Tejas]

31. Yep, you're a genius that can tell

the caliber/education of any individual just by looking at your monitor. That's why you're hanging out in GD.


:rofl:

[greatauntoftriplets]

39. I think this is worth saving....

but the response to it and Tejas' response should both be RSed as PAs.

[verges]

26. And in NE Ohio....

we had roses blooming Thanksgiving!

[alfredo]

7. We are the last of the Homo Genus. If we go, their is no more.

[kestrel91316]

13. It has occurred to me that's probably a good thing......

Crows and cats and rats are well-positioned to fill the void.

[alfredo]

18. It would be bad for the parasites that live off our body.

[BrklynLiberal]

21. but that is about it......

[alfredo]

23. Cows would probably disappear, and so would many breeds of dogs.

[SoCalDem]

12. India's water-source is being endangered too, with the melting

and there are a LOT of people in India who have become accustomed to drinking water:eyes:

[Hekate]

14. The entire region's water source is also being threatened by the Chinese, who plan to dam the rivers

The Brahmaputra River (and another whose name I can't recall just now) waters the entire region from Tibet on down. Although the Chinese are busily denying it, the National Remote Sensing Agency in India has confirmed the activity. The plans are to divert the water for China's use. The Gobi Desert could be farmed -- and the Yellow River, which now runs dry for part of the year, could be replenished. However India, Nepal, and Bangladesh would be devastated.

Although we have people here at DU who think the Chinese are friends of Tibet, they emphatically are not. To the Chinese, the Tibetan Plateau is a highly strategic location and I think the Tibetan people are only a nuisance to them. But that's another story.

http://www.zeenews.com/news575946.html

Hekate

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Hey, the Chinese LOVE Tibet.

It's just the Tibetens they don't care so much for.

[Hekate]

17. You got that right. nt

[Winterblues]

22. The way I was taught to figure Fahrenheit from Celsius

Is to double it and add 32. 8 degrees Celsius would equal 48 degrees Fahrenheit. Are we to understand there will be 48 degrees difference in temperature in only forty years? Seems like a lot..:shrug:

[slackmaster]

24. You are thinking of the formula for converting thermometer readings

One degree C = 9/5 of one degree F.

[ThomThom]

38. F=9/5C +32

as I remember it

[fascisthunter]

29. When will we reach the "Tipping Point of no Return"?

or have we already tipped?

[Tejas]

32. They'll tell you that when their

bank statements start to level off. Hey, scientists gotta eat too!

:rofl:

[fascisthunter]

33. awww. did I get under your skin? You'll adjust

you have no choice...

[Tejas]

36. Did you miss the rofl smilie?

Slow down and quit being so quick on the trigger. We'll never agree so why not have some fun eh?


oh, and by the way, wait for it.....



:)

[fascisthunter]

34. dupe

[branders seine]

30. waa! I didn't get my pony!

Waaa! Glug, glug, glub!

Don't count on the US to help change anything.

[Uncle Joe]

35. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Thickasabrick.