For The Pit Bull Misunderstanding Crowd.

[Xicano]

The news lady who found a stray Pit Bull in this 2min video clip learns she was "wrong" about Pit Bulls.

Sorry about the audio being weak in the video clip, I rushed to grab my pocket cam to catch this scene and forgot to turn up the audio on my television. At the 43 second mark this is what the news lady says:

"You know I gotta tell you something. This is aside....this dog and the reason why I called you and everything....inaudible....animal attacks. This dog has proven me wrong about everything I ever thought about a Pit Bull. He gets along with every dog......"

To make out the weak audio you'll have to turn your volume way up. http://members.cox.net/xiupohualli/Pit_Bulls_and_Parolees.wmv

[TexasObserver]

1. You started a thread for this?

[Xicano]

2. What's wrong with it?

You dislike Pit Bulls and wish to see them banned?

:shrug:

[TexasObserver]

4. It's not even a news story. It's some tidbit equivalent of a random twitter.

I dislike Pit Bulls as well as most of their owners and breeders, most of whom are irresponsible.

[Xicano]

6. "Most?"

And you know this to be a fact how? I mean that statement is just like the pot uneducated person who thinks all pot smokers are like Jeff Spicoli. You wouldn't happen to be Mr. Hand in real life would you?

[Name removed]

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[goldcanyonaz]

14. Touche'

[TexasObserver]

15. When you stoop to attacking personally, you don't help your case.

You help prove that you're unreasonable, and since you're a pit bull owner, you don't represent well for them. You help make the case that neither the breed nor those who favor it can trusted in society to think rationally about the presence of the dog around humans who aren't in its pack.

The pit bull is on its way out, and those who own such dogs are on their way to strict liability and criminal sanctions for the misdeeds of their dogs.

[MadHound]

16. Wow, sarcasm and humor just fly right over that head of yours, doesn't it?

Is that another Texan trait? Hell, I even gave you a little smiley cue, and yet here you go and take it all personal and serious.

Meanwhile, you continue to make baseless accusations against the breed and the owners of that breed. Apparently sarcasm and humor do fly right over your head, either that or you just have an irrational hatred of pit bulls.

Oh, and I noticed that you didn't respond to my AKC fact. Here's another one for you, the dogs that are usually at the top of the most biting dog list are poodles and cocker spaniels.

And no, I doubt that pits are on the way out. Well, actually I hope they are, but not in the way that you think. I hope that pits are on their way out of fashion as the bad boy dog du jour. Then perhaps they can go back to being the lovable family dog that they've always been. They're due. When I was growing up as a kid, we had German Shepards back when they were the bad boy dog du jour. Then came Dobies, then Pits. Hopefully some other breed will take the title, and leave pits alone again.

Oh, and as far as "strict liability and criminal sanctions for the misdeeds of their dogs," I doubt that's going to happen in the vast majority of this country, people generally tend to have some sense about those things.

Sounds to me like you yourself need to be around pits, get rid of that irrational fear/hatred that you have of them. Tell you what, if you want you can come hang out with my Suzi girl for awhile, or my sister's pit, Pink. They're great dogs, and about all they'll do to you is lick you to death.

Or perhaps you should get one for yourself. Disprove those stereotypes you have.

[TexasObserver]

17. Can you post without making personal attacks?

I don't worry about trying to convince dog owners their pets are a problem. The public at large already knows, and they are in the majority, not the dog's advocates. Thankfully, the public is a lot smarter about dealing with dangerous animals and irresponsible animal owners than are the pit bull advocates, who are only a tiny fraction of the population.

[Xicano]

21. "The public at large already knows, and they are in the majority"

You mean just like the news lady in the OP video link? Oh yeah, she did a 180 in her opinion about Pit Bulls after she got personal experience with one.

The vast majority of the public at large you refer to are ignorant about most things beyond what they are trained to think by the news media. The same news media the news lady in the OP video link. The same public at large with all their wisdom who voted for Shrub, who voted for Reagan, who voted for Prop 8, who support the drug war, who can't even find Afghanistan or other countries on a map.

Here's your public at large >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwRQPdKqKg

I wouldn't put too much stock in what you use to try and support your argument. I agree with MadHound, perhaps you should get a Pit Bull for yourself. I bet if you did and were honest about it your opinion would do a 180 just like that news lady's.

[TZ]

20. Proof? Or do you just enjoy making broad brush ignorant statements?

I'm serious. Why is this anymore acceptable than saying "most poor people are lazy" or "many black people like fried chicken".

[flvegan]

24. That poster's sig line should be enough to answer that question. n/t

[TZ]

29. Yeah I know but

Prejudice should always be pointed out.

[Zomby Woof]

27. You've personally met ALL pit bulls, their owners, and breeders?

How did you find the time to do that AND post on DU? :wow:

I do love the peace sign avatar that goes with the "First, let's kill all the pit bulls" sig line. Has that 'Final Solution' aroma!

[baldguy]

42. What can you expect from someone who hates animals?

[paulsby]

3. it's kind of ironic you posted this today.

i had to backup animal control in removing some dogs from a house (they had bitten a couple of kids today and woman was not complying with various regulations etc.) . NONE of them were pit bulls. they were just basic mutts.

my partner had to shoot a dog a little while back - not a pit bull

i was mauled when i was younger, not a pit bull.

i've responded to several vicious dog calls, including one in which a neighbor (lawfully) shot his neighbors dog after it attacked his mother.

NONE of these dogs were pitbulls.

pit bulls who are trained to be PIT bulls, iow fighting dogs are of course as aggressive as fuck and hella dangerous.

but there are LOTS of breeds of dogs that will end up that way if they are trained similarly.

the training is the key.

of course, if you trained a little weiner dog or toy dog that way, it wouldn't be a very effective nasty dog. but it would be hella nasty despite it's diminutive size.

the one issue with pit bulls is that they DO have tremendous jaw strength, much greater than many breeds.

but the issue with dogs is how they are raised and trained. there is no "killer breed"

[Xicano]

5. I remember seeing a bite test done on Pit Bulls vs German Shepherds

And the tests showed the German Shepherd consistently biting harder than the Pit Bull. I wish I can remember what Animal Planet show that was where I saw that. Nothing against German Shepherds because I love those dogs too, but, they're powerful enough for the police to use to take down criminals. However, and how it should be, people don't pass bad judgement against German Shepherds because of their potential to be dangerous. And the same is true for several other breeds.

Here's a couple examples of other dogs attacking people and doing damage, but, yet for some reason some people only misunderstand the Pit Bull.

Man Mauled to Death by German Shepherds


A 21-year old man was mauled to death after a pair of German Shepherds attacked him in the back garden of a friend’s home in Blackpool. Andrew Walker, suffered over 50 bites and lost more than half the blood in his body from the attack.

The dogs had been free exercising in the back yard of a friend’s home where Mr Walker was living at the time and they began to fight. Mr Walker attempted to break up the fight but ended up being fatally mauled.


http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/4535/man-mauled-to-death-by-german-shepherds/







German shepherd attacks woman, grandchildren


DOVER -- A woman and her two grandchildren were injured after their family pet broke its chain in the backyard
and attacked them Thursday.

According to Mason County Deputy Mike Rigdon, the sheriff's office received a call around 12:15 p.m.,
concerning a disturbance. Rigdon responded to a location on Lee's Creek Road in Dover where a 96-pound
German shepherd had attacked a 51-year-old woman and her two 4-year-old grandchildren.

Rigdon said the adult victim, whose name is being withheld until completion of Rigdon's official report, advised
him the dog attacked the 4-year-old girl for no apparent reason while she played in the backyard. The dog had
been restrained by a chain, but apparently broke the chain.

When the young girl was attacked, the woman attempted to intervene and the dog bit her numerous times as she
tried to ward the dog off. During the attack, the 4-year-old boy was also bitten.


http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/OtherBreedBites/2007/May/gsd0507.pdf

Like you said paulsby, its not the breed that's the problem. Its several factors with the breed being low on the list.



Peace,
Xicano

[paulsby]

7. german shepards make excellent

police k-9's (not the smell kind, but the track down and bite (if necessary) the criminal kind) are often shepards and trust me they can bite PLENTY hard. I've quarried with them before, wearing protective gear, and i still felt like my arm was being ripped out of the socket.

one of my coworker's shepard is the nicest sweetest dog you could imagine. awesome with kids, really smart, etc. but due to his training, he is absolutely fearless and intimidating when he goes into "bad guy tracking mode"

why?

the training!

[Xicano]

9. Exactly!

A few of my friends have German Shepherds and all three of them are very sweet dogs and extremely smart. Two traits I've noticed about them are their loyalty and their fearlessness. I can totally see why they make excellent police and guard dogs. But they also make great family pets too. Awesome dogs.

[paulsby]

10. gender, though does matter a lot more

almost all police k-9's that are for tracking and apprehending suspects are male. i've never seen a female in this position. the k-9 officer told me it's a personality thing, and males work much better.

when it comes to sniffer dogs, then females are considered slightly better, because their temperment is more suited to that position.

malinois are REALLY popular now for tracking, btw. moreso than shepards.

[Xicano]

11. I didn't know that....

Although I have to admit I am not terribly surprised to see the girl dogs doing better at the more intellectual activities while the boy dogs doing better at the athletic/aggressive activities. LOL

Uh oh, I think I am gonna get into trouble for that one. :hide:

:)

[paulsby]

12. well, i don't know how much intellect it takes

to use your nose, which is all the sniffer dogs do! :)

the problem with the female tracker dogs is that they can't fold their maps when they are done reading them :)

[JCMach1]

8. Yeah that last song he did was total- BLECH

[Robb]

18. My take is this:

You've got a dog's physical abilities, you've got the choices breeders have made for a few hundred years, and you've got an individual dog's life experience.

Let me take a dog I've seen more of than about anybody: huskies. Siberian huskies, for example, have a bite (pounds per square inch) ability that's only second to the bull mastiff. But for a couple thousand years, the breeders have been making sure only the non-agressive dogs get any "action" at breeding time, because they've got to get along with people and other dogs -- traditional means of transportation in a part of the world where it's a life or death deal.

I've met huskies that are complete bastards, from having a rough upbringing and poor socialization. They act aggressive, and they bully other dogs and try to intimidate people. Which, when you look a bit like a freakin' wolf, is an easy task.

But somewhere in their brainstem, when it gets down to it, they know they're not supposed to put their mouths on people very hard. It freaks them out a bit when they're wrestling and suddenly my hand is actually in their mouth. They stop what they're doing and pull back, look a little nervous, and then continue. I've been accidentally bitten, although a better description would be "in the heat of the moment my hand ran into their upper or lower jaw."

Pits, as I understand it, have had a rough breeding plan for a few hundred years, and with the recent popularity you've got a bunch out there that haven't been raised well. So it's two strikes against them from the get-go. Probably, like all dogs, you can do the work and get a great one.

I'd be apprehensive that, somewhere in the back of the brain, when push comes to shove in a high-stress situation, they would revert to some bad mojo. It's like the old saying you can train a dog to do anything, unless it's a heeler, in which case you cannot train it to not nip at your heels and try to herd your slippers. :)

[Xicano]

19. Interesting points.

However, there are plenty of incorrect myths regarding the Pit Bull, and thats the problem. I am not saying that you're wrong about Pit Bulls having a history of rough breeding because there is a history of rough breeding. However, its just as much of a myth that this history makes Pit Bulls more susceptible to aggression towards other animals or people as other working breeds.

For example: Black and Tan Coonhounds have it bred in them to hunt and will go after and slaughter cats and raccoons and other similar sized game. They are good for going after mountain lions and are also used for that purpose. Even the very friendly beagle will resort to its breeding and slaughter a rabbit if it given the chance. Nevertheless, these dogs also make very loving and loyal pets.

Similarly other breeds such as Foxhounds, Greyhounds and many other breeds will, if given the chance, chase and maul to death other animals. However, these dogs too make very loving and loyal pets.

Its no different with the Pit Bull, and, it is NOT typical of the Pit Bull breed to have a tendency to show aggression toward non threatening people. It is just not typical of the dog's breed. Just like the above dogs mentioned, a Pit Bull's breeding has been to control or takeout other animals but NOT people. The typical trait of a Pit Bull (unless abused or trained otherwise) is submissive toward people and loves children.

Allow me to post some statistics from the American Temperament Test Society on dog breeds. Notice that the American Pit Bull Terrier scores better than most other dog breeds? It is a fact that Pit Bulls are so misunderstood by so many people. Just look at how close to 100% the Pit Bull scores even though several hundred tests were conducted as opposed to the few dogs that scored better only had a few tests conducted. If you go through the above posted link to dog breed temperament statistics you'll notice that a Pit Bull's temperament scores better than a Golden Retriever's. Better than a Golden Retriever.

How many other dogs could you trust around baby chicks like this? >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByywG_Qqp3A


Pit Bulls are very good dogs.


Peace,
Xicano

[libertypirate]

22. I have a heeler lab mix and you can train it to do anything...

but stop herding.

The problem with trying to make my dog isn't dangerous argument is same as the pro-gun argument. You keep arguing that under ideal conditions everything is peachy. There are no ideal situations and every situation can seem ideal until something happens. It only takes one misjudgment, one lapse in attention. A dog with jaws breed for the ability to hold tight are not a problem until you need them to let go. My 50lb heeler because I misjudged her full strength hurt me bad. I turned to pick up a toy and she clipped the back of my leg. She hit me hard enough that my top side landed with or just before my bottom half; I weight about 190. Needless to say I pulled enough down my arm and back that I couldn't sit at all the first month.

She was young and like a heeler quickly learned that she can't herd humans at the intensity she does cows. What she couldn't learn was to stop herding. Today she clipped me again while walking back in after her morning wee. I took a couple of big steps after I turned away from her. Her instincts told her that I was breaking off. She ran between my legs to lean me the direction she wanted me to go. I yelped "Hey!" her head and tail went down and she headed back to the house with doggy shame. Which is the best a heeler owner should ever expect.

You can get them to temper their instinct, but when a dog's instinct is to kill you don't get a mistake.

[Zomby Woof]

23. Paging flvegan

Popcorn-flavored courtesy phone. :popcorn:

[flvegan]

25. 10-4 good buddy!

:popcorn:

[flvegan]

26. Pit Bulls & Parolees. I love that show.

And that is one great dog. Funny how folks' opinions can change when they actually get some experience with a dog from a maligned breed rather than stupidly buying into media hype.

[Xicano]

32. I love it too.

I wish they'd air it on other channels.

:hi:

[BeachBaby]

28. Good post. And in case anybody missed this before......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDxe24ud90&feature=related

For all the pitbull-haters, y'all need to turn your hatred toward GSDs and Rotties. I mean, I know they're pretty and all, but....still. :eyes:

[Xicano]

35. Ahhh, another bit test comparisons video.

And of the three dogs in this test which dog scored the lowest in bite pounds? The Pit Bull. Beat out by the German Shepherd and Rottweiler.

I saw some other video comparing the Pit Bull to a German Shepherd and the German Shepherd beat the Pit Bull in that video by a little bit bigger margin.

Thanks for the link BeachBaby.

[sendero]

30. Classic...

.. fooled by randomness. Look it up.

[Xicano]

31. Breed temperament statistical tests. n/t

:hi:

http://www.atts.org/stats1.html <<< Pit Bulls statistically have better temperaments than Golden Retrievers.

[sendero]

34. Golden retrievers kill more toddlers..

.. than pit bulls? Prove it.

"Temperament" is so what. I'm grouchy, but I'm not going to hurt anybody.

[baldguy]

37. It's a uniform standardized test.

[sendero]

54. If it doesn't measure actual incidents of violence..

.... then I'm not interested. It has no relevance to this issue.

[baldguy]

56. So you're only interested in the cheery-picked, anacdotal stories you're interested in?

And wish to condemn an entire group of individual animals because of it?


Well, here are some actual incidents of violence you may have missed:

Family dog kills 2-week-old Mesa infant
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/136286
Chow

Puppy kills 2-month-old boy
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2008/07/puppy-kills-2-m.html
Black Lab

Kids' cries woke mom of boy, 3, killed by dogs' bites
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=a79e501c-14a2-4964-aa02-f9a5ab25d2a5
Rottweiler

Coroner rules death of baby killed by dog was accident
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/sep/24/coroner-rules-death-of-baby-killed-by-dog-was
Husky

Lawsuit filed in poodle attack
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_396850.html

[MrScorpio]

33. I like that show PITBULLS AND PAROLEES

Both deserve a second chance in the minds of the rest of us

[Onceuponalife]

36. "Pit bulls got no reason...no reason to liiiiive"

Sing it, Randy!

[kwassa]

38. Google "pit bull attack"

here are some of the hits, first page and a half, all very recent dates:

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/bayonne/index.ssf?/base/news-5/1259997958315960.xml&coll=3

Woman, 70, in hospital after pit bull attack
Saturday, December 05, 2009
By SARAH RAHMAN
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

A 70-year-old woman was critically injured yesterday morning when she was mauled by two pit bulls that had gotten loose from their Bayonne backyard, police said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-pitbullattacks-ch,0,1802110,print.story

Pit bull attacks 5 in Chicago

7:21 PM CST, December 6, 2009

CHICAGO

Chicago police say an officer shot and killed a pit bull dog after it attacked five people Sunday on the city's South Side.

Chicago police say the officer fired at the dog after seeing the animal chase a group of young girls and bite at least one of them. Police say the dog was unleashed and did not have a collar.

http://www.wesh.com/news/21887833/detail.html

Pit Bull Attacks Volusia Co. Deputy
Pit Bull Was Shot, In Custody Of Animal Control

12:54 pm EST December 7, 2009


DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- A Volusia County Sheriff's deputy was hospitalized on Monday afternoon after he was attacked by a dog.


http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/man-saves-woman-from-pit-bull-attack-120709

Man Saves Woman from Pit Bull Attack

Updated: Tuesday, 08 Dec 2009, 8:29 AM EST

A neighbor in a yard behind his house was being attacked by the family pit bull.

"She was down and the dog was dragging her by the arm," said Johnson. "She was down on the ground in a lot of distress."


http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/nov/30/news/chi-ap-il-dogmaulingdeath


Archive for Monday, November 30, 2009
Southern Illinois woman killed in pit bull attack

Associated Press
November 30, 2009
FLORA, Ill. -

Authorities in southern Illinois say an elderly woman from the Clay County community of Flora has died from injuries she suffered in an attack by a pit bull.

Police say 85-year-old Rosie Humphries was walking her own dog Monday afternoon when the pit bull suddenly attacked and mauled both of them.

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20091208/BREAKINGNEWS/91208011/1006/NEWS01/Pit+bull+killed+after+charging+Palm+Bay+officer

December 8, 2009

Pit bull killed after charging Palm Bay officer

BY J.D. GALLOP
FLORIDA TODAY

A loud disturbance at an apartment complex led to a woman being arrested and an aggressive pit bull being shot by police, officials said.

Without hesitation, Johnson jumped the fence, grabbed the 80-pound dog by the neck, and started punching him.

http://www.wvnstv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=71577

Family of Man Killed by Dogs Asks for Tougher Laws for Pit Bulls
Posted Monday, December 7, 2009 ; 06:44 PM | View Comments | Post Comment

The family of Lowell Bowden, 70, spoke out in favor of stricter regulation of the pit bull breed.

LINDSIDE -- The family of a man who was killed after a Nov. 27 dog attack now is asking state and local lawmakers to take a look at laws and ordinances regulating pit bulls.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/03/uncle-arrested-fatal-dog-attack

Uncle arrested over fatal dog attack on four-year-old boy

Christian Foulkes held on suspicion of manslaughter after illegal pitbull killed John-Paul Massey


The uncle of four-year-old John-Paul Massey, who was mauled to death by an illegal pitbull terrier, was today arrested by police on suspicion of manslaughter.



Lowell Bowden, 70, of Monroe County died Dec. 6 after being attacked by a group of dogs six days earlier.

[PeaceNikki]

39. Statistical validity is not the media's job.

News outlets are in the business of reporting singular events. They do not select stories for publication on the basis of random sampling techniques. Editors promote stories they believe to be of interest to their audience. Most incidents involving dogs, good, bad, or indifferent, are not reported at all. Severe attacks by dogs are, happily, exceedingly rare.

For the stories they do choose to cover, based upon their own estimate of its newsworthiness, journalists have no control over how their reporting will be used – or misused — by others.

Reporters are not specialists. They may report as fact what are really opinions, or cite official statements and/or published studies that experts have called into serious question. Stories completed against deadline pressures may contain errors that the outlet will only correct if later developments generate an interest in a follow up. Reporters will neglect critical factors that contributed to a serious incident involving a dog and assign unjustified significance to a dog’s breed description, while, at the same time printing inaccurate breed identification of dogs which are never corrected later.

A 2008 report on media bias by the National Canine Research Council (available on their website at http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-bites/dog-bites-and-the-media/audience-interest) compared the type of media coverage given for dog attacks that occurred during a four–day period in August 2007 with intriguing results:

On day one, a Labrador mix attacked an elderly man, sending him to the hospital. News stories of his attack appeared in one article in the local paper.

On day two, a mixed–breed dog fatally injured a child. The local paper ran two stories.

On day three, a mixed–breed dog attacked a child, sending him to the hospital. One article ran in the local paper.

On day four, two pit bulls that broke off their chains attacked a woman trying to protect her small dog. She was hospitalized. Her dog was uninjured. This attack was reported in more than 230 articles in national and international newspapers and on the major cable news networks.

It is not a stretch to see how such news coverage could influence calls for breed bans from the frightened public and its legislators.

[kwassa]

43. There are no statistically valid numbers on dog attacks.

so we need to go with the anecdotal evidence, don't we?

a small snapshot as you presented indicates nothing.

These attacks happen, people are injured and killed. That is a fact.

If you want to believe it is a media conspiracy, go ahead. I think pit bulls are a fucked-up breed and should be outlawed.

[PeaceNikki]

47. Well, you're clearly ignorant.

And your small snapshot you presented indicates nothing. Except your ignorance.

DU likes to collectively rip on the media for being inaccurate and biased... UNLESS it's about pit bull "attacks". Then some of you buy into their shit hook, line and sinker.

Yes, dog attacks happen. But they are NOT just pits. In fact "pit bull" isn't even a breed. There are about 20 breeds that get called "pit bulls".


http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-bites/dog-bites-and-the-media/breed-identification

What do all of these dogs have in common?







* They were all involved in a fatal attack on a human between the years 2002 and 2008
* They were all reported in the media to be “pit bulls”
* They are all counted equally as pit bulls by those tallying fatalities by breed

[Xicano]

50. Thanks PeaceNikki. Its like people who have selective hearing.

You know before Pits were branded with a scarlet letter, other breeds used to be branded too. Such as German Shepherds, Doberman Pinchers, Rottweilers are the three I remember. Pitts used to also be recognized for their family dog qualities. That was of course when other dogs wore the scarlet letter.

In your pictures I only notice two out of the seven dogs as being American Pit Bull Terriers. But some folks unfortunately will remain hard headed I am afraid.

That is why I loved it when I first that the Animal Planet came out with Pit Bulls & Parolees. Awesome!


:hi:

[baldguy]

44. For the lazy, ignorant media ANY & EVERY dog attack is perpetrated by a Pit Bull.

Why don't you try to read some actual statistics?

[PeaceNikki]

45. Applying your "logic"

[baldguy]

48. And lost in all the firestorm of stupidity on this subject

Is that any individual is 1000x more likely to be attacked, injured or killed by a human in the household - a parent, guardian, sibling or spouse - than the family dog. No matter what the breed is.

The threat of dog attack is right up there with the dangers of knitting.

[PeaceNikki]

49. Indeed. And, because I am going to bed soon...

if the persons above keep going on about "outlawing" pit bulls, I want them to see this:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/PeaceNikki/27

[Xicano]

51. Thanks for the link PeaceNikki

I am going to bookmark it for later.

:hi:

[baldguy]

52. Google "pit bull hero"

Pit Bull Saved The Lives Of 30 People, 29 Dogs, 13 Horses, And A Cat
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/extraordinary_animals/89234

Hero dog bitten defending little Ebony
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/hero-dog-bitten-defending-little-ebony/story-e6frf7kx-1111115627487

Hero pit bull finds newborn
http://www.all-creatures.org/adow/art-heropit.html

Pit bull mix honored as hero
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/features/mutts/blog/2008/01/pit_bull_mixed_honored_as_hero.html

Pit bull dies saving 2 women from cobra
http://dogsinthenews.com/stories/070301a.php

Hero pooch saves 7-year-old Queens girl
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2007/07/08/2007-07-08_hero_pooch_saves_7yearold_queens_girl.html

Pit bull credited for saving family from armed intruders
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/HeroicPitties/Weezie.pdf

Kool K-9 Popsicle retires
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/CustomsToday/2002/October/k9.xml

Juice is the family star. (Saved a sleeping couple from a burning house.)
http://www.purina.ca/about/halloffame/inductee/2004/juice.aspx

Dog notifies owner about his mother's heart attack
http://www.purina.ca/about/halloffame/inductee/2001/lilly.aspx

Dog wakes owner who succumbed to carbon monoxide.
http://www.purina.ca/about/halloffame/inductee/1999/cesar.aspx

Dog saves owner after she collapses from a spider bite.
http://www.purina.ca/about/halloffame/inductee/1999/norton.aspx

Hero Pitbull Thwarts Abduction Attempt
http://fortheloveofthedogblog.com/news-updates/hero-pitbull-thwarts-abduction-attempt-video

Pit bull takes bullets for owner
http://www.ohmidog.com/2008/12/11/pit-bull-takes-bullets-for-owner/

[Xicano]

53. Oh that's a good one baldguy.

Thanks so much for those links. Here's a few of Pit Bulls attacking babies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttn364R5vZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4e_YMMWEk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfj2x0Un4TI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiX45LBii7U


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[Starry Messenger]

55. Oh nicely played.

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[apocalypsehow]

40. I say let Pit Bulls live - put their owners down everytime one mauls a kid to death instead. n/t.

[baldguy]

41. Punish the real monsters.

[Xicano]

46. Iams Dog Breed Guild.

Personality:

Alert and outgoing. Spirited. Very loyal. Intelligent, trainable, eager, and willing to please, but needs a firm and consistent owner. Requires a lot of interaction with his human family - do not get this breed unless you want a real companion. Does best as a house dog, as part of the family. Has a strong affinity for children, though, as with all breeds, children should be supervised and trained how to treat dogs properly. Though American Pit Bull Terriers tend to be friendly with strangers, and are therefore not good guard dogs, they will lay down their lives for their families if needed. The breed is renowned for its gameness - unflagging courage and sustained determination.

http://www.iams.com/iams/en_US/jsp/IAMS_Page.jsp?pageID=DBD&breedPage=ampibute.html