Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I bet Iran just can't wait for us to start divvying up their oil fields

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:26 AM
Original message
I bet Iran just can't wait for us to start divvying up their oil fields
http://www.khaleejtimes.ae/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/business/2009/December/business_December258.xml§ion=business

Iraq holds oil auction, Shell wins giant field (Reuters)

11 December 2009, 12:06 PMRoyal Dutch Shell and Petronas of Malaysia won a deal to develop Iraq’s Majnoon oilfield, said Oil Minister, in the country’s second bidding round since the 2003 US invasion.

The companies proposed a per barrel fee of just $1.39 per barrel and pledged to increase output from the supergiant Majnoon field to 1.8 million barrels per day, more than double what Iraq had expected. The fee was lower than Iraq had been willing to pay.

“We announce that the consortium of Shell and Petronas have won (the contract) to develop Majnoon, and the fee is less than the Oil Ministry specified,” Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani said. French oil major Total, partnered with China’s CNPC, had also bid for the field.

Iraq is offering 10 oilfields over two days in a rare opportunity for oil firms, from Western majors to Chinese and Indian state-owned giants, to gain access to plentiful and cheap to drill Middle East oil reserves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:40 AM
Response to Original message
1. Its all about the oil
and us not wanting to pay the iraqi the price they wanted so we pay them in their deaths with our deaths and a shitload of DU weapons. the Dick and the oil barrons, smart huh

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Oil is over $70 per barrel and we give the Iraqis $1.39 per barrel for theirs
Imagine that.

Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:26 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. And those oily people are able to sleep at night
bunch of scoundrels and nothing else, the whole bunch of them
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. An auction necessarily
puts competing interests into competition for a product. These companies likely fully understand the cost of production and the market for such rights. This is not to say that they are not going to profit handsomely from the transaction, only that presumably all interested parties had the same opportunity to purchase based on the potential value and Shell was willing to pay the most.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. delete
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 08:24 AM by pampango
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:19 AM
Response to Reply #2
9. "We" are not giving them anything unless you are a Shell Oil stock holder..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
metalbot Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
11. The cost of oil comes from the cost of extracting it
It's not as if there are a bunch of Iraqis who are sitting around with barrels of oil that some company is going to buy and sell at 95% profit.

Oil in the ground is worthless until someone drills it and extracts it. The reason that the Middle East has oil "wealth" comes not from the fact that they have so much oil, but the fact that the oil there is (relatively) cheaper to extract. Given that Exxon runs at about a 10% profit margin, you can expect that whomever extracts that oil is going to spend 90% of that $70 price tag on drilling it, managing the rigs, storing the oil, transporting it, refining it, and transporting it again, all of which is done on multi-million dollar pieces of equipment that has a limited lifetime.

Given that Majnoon produces half a million barrels a day, Iraq will get a quarter billion dollars a year from the field with no investment. They'll also get a majority portion of the jobs actually working the rigs.

Comparing the price per barrel for the rights to extract it to the price per barrel is a little bit like comparing the cost of an apple to the cost of a seed.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:57 AM
Response to Original message
3. Who is 'us'....are you Iraqi?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:01 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Us is the people occupying Iraq right now
Did you forget about that?

Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. I read the article, it states that the Iraqis are selling rights to their fields..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. The Iraqis the article is citing are our puppets we have holed up in our embassy
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 08:54 AM by NNN0LHI
You think that is a legitimate government?

Suppose we had a foreign army invade and occupy our country with Shock and Awe, kill our government officials and then prop up their imported puppet inside of their embassy in DC. Would you consider that a legitimate government?

Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Maybe, if Saddam Hussein had been dictating in my country for several decades prior..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. So if Saddam was the same occupiers previous puppet it would be OK with ...
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 09:24 AM by NNN0LHI
... with you if those same people came in and killed untold numbers of your countrymen while removing their old puppet and giving you a brand new puppet? That would make you very happy?



Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Look, I'm not now, nor have I ever defended Iraq
this thread is about oil sales by Iraqis to a Dutch and Malaysian oil company..we and they are where we are and have what we have. What they have is a lot of oil deep underground, no technology, no equipment, no money to capitalize on that resource, no infrastructure and someone willing to pump billions and create jobs for them without raising a finger.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. No you are trying to insult peoples intelligence by claiming Iraq has a legitimate government
When they don't and the entire world knows it.

Not kidding anyone.

Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 07:27 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC