Liberals want the public option. Therefore, 60-70% of Americans are liberals.

[Cetacea]

Who knew? The pundits insist that only liberals and/or the "far-left" want a public option. Something doesn't add up here....

"Moderate" is another word for sell-out.

That is all.

[liberal N proud]

1. We wish

[RainDog]

2. heh heh

this is, in fact, true. if people are asked their opinion about various issues, America generally polls far more liberal on issues than the media would have you believe. even if they don't know they're liberal because Fox has worked so hard to make that a bad word.

[Cetacea]

12. Correct. The demonization of the word began with Reagan/Bush.

It was there before them, but they began to control more of the media at that point.

[Captain Hilts]

3. Neither Congress nor the White House represent us on this issue. nt

[Cetacea]

8. You know it's bad when they ignore the polls. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

4. A majority of Americans support Obama's strategy in Afghanistan

Does that mean that a majority of Americans are pro-war reactionaries?

[NJmaverick]

7. lol oh snap!

[NJmaverick]

5. I have to wonder about polls like these

20% of the American public can't even find our Country on a map. So what are the odds that the general public is informed on and understands an issue as complex as HCR?

[pipi_k]

16. Thank you....not to mention

those of us who can find the US on a map (along with a few other countries as well)...HCR is so complex that I believe even educated people cannot fathom every. single. point. and. nuance.

Oh, they like to tell themselves they do, but unless they've read all two bazillion pages thoroughly, I would bet only a small handful really "gets" it.


I know I don't thoroughly understand it all, and I'm not going to pretend I do.

There are lots of "gray areas" in life. Very few things are exactly what they seem, especially when it comes to personal issues involving us imperfect humans.

And polls....bah. Someone might think one way today and something else tomorrow.

I too wonder about "polls" like that

[NJmaverick]

17. I would suggest it goes even beyond understanding the bill

one needs to understand the complex interactions in the health care system. There are so many players in that system. From general physicians, to specialists, to hospitals, to medical testing centers, to labs, to insurance companies, to pharmaceutical companies and medical device and hospital supply manufacturers, to regulatory agencies, to Medicare and Medicaid, to preventative medicine and so on and so on

[Cetacea]

20. Yet, they understand what socialism is. lol

[NJmaverick]

21. lol true, If most did, I doubt they would be as scared of it

[cali]

6. bzzzt. tyou're demonstrating a failure of critical thinking.

it's simply a ridiculous claim that can't be backed up. Anyone who thinks that the American public is liberal is simply delusional. On some issues, as a whole, the American public is liberal. On others it's conservative. And if you have such faith in polls; virtually every poll out there indicates that far more Americans identify as conservative than liberal.

[Cetacea]

9. I'm just reporting what I am being told.

Tongue is planted firmly in cheek.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

13. Wrong Again

You can always identify a Fox News viewer when they start citing "statistics" that exist only in their own minds. Only about 20% of people identify themselves as Conservatives, which makes them about HALF the number of people who identify themselves Liberals. But I guess when you get your numbers from people who claim that 78 bazillion people attended Glenn Beck's March of the Sugarplum Teabaggers.........

[cali]

18. sorrry, I don't watch Fux or any other news. And by your, er, standards, genius

the OP is a Fux News viewer. I have nothing but contempt for made up bullshit like that contained in your feeble post, dear. Please stuff this in your little pipe and have a good smoke:

Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group
Percentage of “liberals” higher this decade than in early ’90s
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.



These annual figures are based on multiple national Gallup surveys conducted each year, in some cases encompassing more than 40,000 interviews. The 2009 data are based on 10 separate surveys conducted from January through May. Thus, the margins of error around each year's figures are quite small, and changes of only two percentage points are statistically significant.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

And it's not just gallup. it's every polling concern that reflects this.

Oh, yeah. Welcome to DU. Not

[andym]

27. I hadn't seen these polling numbers, but it explains ALOT

No wonder we're getting mostly moderate reforms. Congress people tend to reflect their constituents.
Of course their constituents are often brainwashed by the media.

[Cetacea]

22. Welcome. to DU. I don't watch Faux news.

And there is nothing in the OP that suggests I do. If anything I am attacking the right-stacked morning blow show. I am not easily pacified by the MSM giving us two or three hours on week day evenings. Some here are I guess.

[Cetacea]

15. Get back to me when and if you feel like discussing media.

[cali]

19. get back to me when you pen something about media worthy of discussion. n/t

[Cetacea]

23. You'd actually have to watch and observe first.

You've written that you don't watch Fox or any other news station and that I follow Fox. Why on earth would I do that? And where in the OP is there a suggestion of that?
If you think Fox is the only problem, there is no need to discuss any further. Wow. The sky is blue. Unrec me.

[cali]

24. haha. you're the one that needs to observe. I said zilch, nothing about

you watching Fox News.

Pathetic.

[Cetacea]

25. Have a good day.

"the OP is a Fux News viewer. "

I really don't have anything against you, dear.

[cali]

26. I said nothing of the sort. Dishonest;

Disgustingly so. I said nothing of the sort and YOU fucking well know it. In context:

"And by your, er, standards, genius the OP is a Fux News viewer."

[Cetacea]

28. Sorry. I didn't read the subject line. My bad.

I thought you'd started the sentence lower cased. Again, peace CALI.

[cali]

29. No problem. Thanks for being so gracious. n/t

[bluestateguy]

10. Including "liberals" like Bill O'Reilly

nt

[dysfunctional press]

11. most americans DO have 'liberal' values...they just don't realize it-

they've been raised to hate that word.

[Cetacea]

14. Thank you. Massive demonization began in the 80's.

As the right began taking over the airwaves.