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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 06:59 PM
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Blame Congress First....
...I recently had a polite discussion with an acquaintance over his/her disapproval of the President. However, as I explained to him/her, the bottom line is it's not President Obama's fault for assuming the task of cleaning out the Aegean Stable left by Two Shoes and Shitstain Shoots-Guy-In-Face. Furthermore, if anyone wants to blame someone or something:

BLAME THE 538 MOTHERFUCKING WHORES IN THAT DOMED EDIFICE AT THE OTHER END OF PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE!



That is all, carry on.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:02 PM
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1. I blame both Congress and the President
Obama has shown that when he wants to pay for war he can arm twist Congress.

And Congress has shown that if it comes to enacting legislation to benefit the corporations they can act without prodding.

They both deserve criticism.

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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:15 PM
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3. I do, too. I'm very disappointed in both of them.
And I hope we get some better Dem candidates in the primaries. I hope some of them are challenged and lose in the primaries.

I'm a straight ticket Dem, but I'm pissed.
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showpan Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:10 PM
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2. A real president
would listen to the people and not the generals...he is just a another neocon puppet who happens to be a dem like Lieberman. The corporations are above us and too big to fail...no matter how poorly they are being run, just like our government.
How could you possibly justify holding one accountable without the other...that makes absolutely 0 sense.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:16 PM
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4. clown
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:21 PM
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11. the president is a neocon puppet? are you drunk?
i hope so
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:17 PM
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5. Absolutely
recommended.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:32 PM
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6. Yep. Imagine a world with
60 Senators like Ted Kennedy, Paul Wellstone and Bernie Sanders. It would be a completely different country.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:45 PM
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12. Don't forget a dozen or so Alan Grayson's
That would be a Congress we could believe in.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:34 PM
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7. Must've been an annoying conversation
:)
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:01 PM
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8. It would all be ok..
...if only Obama would do an LBJ and would use signing statements and, for example, change the Senate plan to Medicare for all, by executive order, over Congress' head, because Bush would do precisely that, and when I voted for Obama, I wanted someone who would be our Bush, dammit, and break shit.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:09 PM
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9. k&r
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:20 PM
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10. If this was a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier
as long as Obama was the dictator.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:44 PM
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13. k&r Some folks are just to dim to get it,, giving Congress a huge pass
every single effing time when they're the ones that hold the purse strings, declare war, legislate new laws, yada, yada, yada.

I think it has to do with still suffering the Bush Syndrome. They just can't quit the being-the-victim-in-a-dictatorship mentality.
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