digby: You've Been Warned

[babylonsister]

It's oh so convenient that Gingrich doesn't have to 'prove' 65% of the country is opposed to health care, isn't it. :eyes:


http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/youve-been-warned-by-digby-think.html


You've Been Warned

by digby


Think Progress Reports:

Gingrich is apparently rallying Republicans behind a new “contract” with Americans — a pledge to take away their health care.

Gingrich reiterated his call for all Republicans to commit to repealing any form of a health care bill that Democrats might pass before the 2010 elections:

GINGRICH: If the left manages to drive through a bill which is opposed by 65 percent of the country on health care, our commitment should be simple — when we get a majority, we’re repealing the whole thing. (applause)

And I want every Democrat who is about to sacrifice their seat for socialized medicine to understand: after you lose your seat, you’re going to lose the socialized medicine too.

As I and many others have pointed out before, Gingrich's Contract wasn't responsible for the '94 congressional takeover. But if it happens, that won't stop Gingrich from taking credit for it.

[spanone]

1. hey newt, fuck off. your political days are over..the people rejected your shit.

[rockymountaindem]

2. So by sitting out the 2010 elections if we don't like the health care bill,

we guarantee that it will get repealed. By the Republicans!

Sounds like a win-win for some people around here.

[seeinfweggos]

3. oh, let's stay home! let's start a third party!

let's run kucinich in the primary!

good gawd all mighty.

thanks for the post, sister, really puts things in perspective

[cliffordu]

11. Yep, Yep and yep!!

[bluestateguy]

4. I could just see Obama standing in front of a GOP Congress at the 2011 State of the Union speech

"If you want to repeal health care. Go ahead. Make my day." Waves the veto pen.

[walldude]

5. LMAO.. the bill has been compromised and watered down till it's nothing

but a gift to the insurance industry and they still oppose it. Hey Newt, didn't you get kicked out out of your gig as Speaker Of The House because you were a corrupt asshole?

[kenny blankenship]

6. Now do you guys see why it was so important to pass something GOOD? something the majority of voters

would CLEARLY benefit from, IMMEDIATELY benefit from, and CERTAINLY KNOW WITHOUT DOUBTS OR SECOND THOUGHTS that they were the intended beneficiaries of, rather than the insurance companies?

There is an enemy out there and he doesn't WAIT for our long range plans, so intricately crafted and balanced through compromise, to come to fruition. He must be overwhelmed and destroyed with irrevocable force.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

7. Ummm.......good luck with THAT

:eyes:

HCR, as currently proposed, isn't perfect by any means but it will almost certainly lead to some much needed and long overdue improvements in our health care system that I think a lot of people are probably not going to dislike enough (if at all) to demand a total repeal of it by the Republicans (should they, heaven forbid, get the power to be able to do so). Isn't Newt forgetting about all of the people who reportedly SUPPORT a *Public Option? :shrug:
If the worst-case scenario comes to pass and the Republicans take back control of the House and/or the Senate (dubious despite the rhetoric and even some polls), should such a repeal make it through the House, there will likely still be enough Democrats whom can still use the filibuster to kill it in the Senate and any such "repeal" that would potentially even make it to Obama's desk will *crawl* there and surely will NOT get his signature and will NOT be able to be overridden, so Newt and the rest of them will have to stop worrying and learn to love teh *socialized medicine*.

[bluestateguy]

8. Thank you

Grinch's logic just does not add up. A repeal MIGHT clear a narrowly controlled GOP House, but would die in a Senate filibuster, or be cheerfully vetoed by Obama if it cleared the latter hurdle. They would have to win everything in 2012, and a filibuster proof Senate majority (OK, 55 or so to account for the DLCers) to actully repeal what was passed. By 2013 the policy would be full operational and people would not want to give that up.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. I don't think that it's likely that the legislation will be THAT unpopular

not to mention the fact that some people might disapprove of the current legislation for exactly the opposite reason as the Republicans, specifically that it doesn't do ENOUGH and if that's the case, they won't support a repeal of the current legislation's provisions, so I think that Newt is perhaps (likely) not considering the greater context of his claims of health care being *unpopular* with the majority of the public.

[SoCalDem]

9. This is what happens when GOPers are allowed to slink away

and re-hab their reputations.. They must be eviscerated, humiliated, destroyed..or they just keep coming back...they are zombies..and they DO eat our brainzzzzzzzzz.

[Nikki Stone1]

12. This is about winning 2010, not about the philosophy of the bill, which is entirely corporatist

He's just trying to rile up the base to rubber stamp his bunch of criminals as opposed to our bunch of criminals.

[ThomThom]

13. As I recall his contract on America was only to bring things up

not to pass them, and most were not passed.