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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:37 PM
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U.S. Oil Companies Lose Out in Iraq Oil Auction
European and Asian bidders were the big winners in this weekend’s auction of Iraq’s lucrative oil field auction while U.S. companies were left out in the cold.

According to a report in the Financial Times(http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/20016a3a-e81c-11de-8a02-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1), European companies Royal Dutch Shell, Gazprom, and Lukoil, and Asian companies China’s CNPC and Malaysia’s Petronas were the big winners. This was the second auction of Iraq’s oil reserves, and reportedly the largest in history. The reserves auctioned off total more than the reserves of Mexico, the U.S. and the U.K. combined.

In June, at the first such auction, BP was the first western oil group to be allowed access to the Iraqi fields since the industry was nationalized in 1972.

Speaking before the Congressional Natural Gas Caucus in October, oil magnate T. Boone Pickens said the cost in lives and money entitled U.S. companies to some of the Iraqi crude.

“They’re opening them (oil fields) up to other companies all over the world. We’re entitled to it,” he said. “Heck, we even lost 5,000 of our people, 65,000 injured and a trillion, five hundred billion dollars. We leave there with the Chinese getting the oil.”

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283842
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:39 PM
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1. The neocons even botched stealing the oil.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:47 PM
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3. hehehehehe... touche.
And only old T. Boone has the unmitigated gall to acknowledge it...

Irony. :+
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:43 PM
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2. Every once in a while, karma gets a lick in
Practically speaking, as an American I guess I should consider this a bad thing.

But emotionally, I'm just enjoying it too much.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:56 PM
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5. First thing I thought of was, "Good!"...
I know. Most people would think it a good thing that we "won" the war. But I'm goddamn sick and tired of our evil empire being able to go marauding around the world stealing everyone's resources and killing innocent people for our greed.

The only thing that's going to stop this insanity is getting our ass handed to us...sometime, somewhere.

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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:02 PM
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7. Iraq isn't over yet. If everything goes to hell the moment we
pull out of there (if we do anytime soon), then we failed.

I think we're going to get our asses handed to us in Afghanistan. I confess that I hope we do. With a little less hubris, we might become a better citizen of the world.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:54 PM
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4. "Heck, we even lost 5,000 of our people, 65,000 injured..."
hey, t-bone, you dumbfuck- A WHOLE LOT more innocent iraqi civilians were killed during our ILLEGAL INVASION. it's THEIR land THEIR country, and THEIR oil, to do with what THEY like. OUR casualties are OUR problem- not theirs.

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:06 PM
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10. Comprehensive, yet nice and concise.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:01 PM
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6. It's all for oil!!!11!!!1 Funny how the oilmen never got a drop out of Iraq. Think about it.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:04 PM
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9. actually- american companies were awarded some iraq contracts last week, iirc.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:09 PM
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12. Are you being disingenuous by ignoring the oilmen (ie Bush, Cheney et al) reference?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:23 PM
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18. i just thought that you were referring to american oil companies in general.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 07:24 PM by dysfunctional press
i've not all that familiar with that nickname being used collectively in reference to the past cabal- and the op that you responded to is about u.s. oil companies- not bush and cheney.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:02 PM
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8. Damn !!!!!!!! Did the worm turn? Did hell freeze over??
I cannot believe that Pickens said that aloud.
Tis true that Cheney sold his soul, and many many lives, to profit on the oil, but I cannot believe Pickens would admit that in public.

Glad to see the greedy bastards under estimated the Iraqi's. God, the Iraq's musta loved that moment.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:08 PM
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11. Here is link to full story, you do not have to register at this site.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 06:11 PM by dixiegrrrrl
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283842
And the key issue is answered here:

"American companies walked away with stakes in just two of the 10 auctioned fields. Seven American companies had paid to participate in the second auction, which began Friday. The only one that submitted a bid lost. Two American companies reached deals for fields auctioned in June."

So, american companies did bid, but lost.
Don't now what the bidding rules were, I assume it was price per barrel they would pay the Iraqis.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:10 PM
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13. "We're entitled to it.." Pretty well sums up 'Murka's view of the world. K&R
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:10 PM
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14. Remember, it's the size of these reserves as claimed by the U.S. and Saddam Hussein...
Suckers.

It sounds to me like the U.S. oil companies got some insider information, like maybe some more realistic numbers about the size of these reserves and information about US willingness (and ability...) to protect them.

I suspect most of the world's oil reserves are vastly inflated because the oil companies seem to be more interested in short term share values than long term market share, and oil producing nations seem to be most concerned about their ability to borrow and attract investment today.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:11 PM
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15. "We’re entitled to it,"
Unfuckingbelievable. We illegally invade their country, destroy their infrastructure, hold phony elections, kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people and now we're "entitled" to their oil. Gee I wonder what this fucking asshole would say if the shoe was on the other foot.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:20 PM
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16. Bush's war
added $30 per barrel to Iraq's oil. And the US does not get the money back.

When Bush got the nomination oil was at $10 per barrel. When he took office it had risen to $30. By September of 2001 it had dropped back to $20 because he hadn't attacked anybody yet. According to my calculations the world paid an extra $17 Trillion for oil thanks to Bush being US President during the Bush years. This cost still goes on and will for many years.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:42 PM
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17. But the real sticky point is this -
Is the oil going to be traded in US dollars? If so, then strategically speaking - Bush succeeded. If my memory serves correct, Hussein switched trading to euros, or threatened to do so - and then Iraq suddenly was a dire threat, had WMD, etc, etc, etc.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:24 PM
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19. Karma never sleeps N/T K&R
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