After 25 years, I've driven my last Democrat to the polls on election day.

[RagAss]

Not after today. Not for this shit. Never again. Let them stay home.

I'm done !

[dkf]

1. Are your Dems are worthless as Lieberman, Landrieu or

Stupak? If so, I wouldn't help them out either.

Mine are ok though, so I'd help if they needed it.

[regnaD kciN]

4. What difference does it make...

...if all they can wind up doing is caving to the DLC gang?

[dkf]

9. The point is to keep the good guys and dump the DLC gang.

The DLC is the minority.

[JVS]

11. Any good guys in FL?

[dkf]

16. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Alan Grayson,

Robert Wexler. Not sure who else.

[regnaD kciN]

19. The problem is, the DLC is still in charge...

...and will be as long as placating them is required, because they hold veto power.

And the notion of "dump the DLC gang" is naive at best. Why do you think we have the Nelsons, Lincolns, and Landrieus? Because no more-progressive Democrat could be elected in those states. It's either a DINO or a Republican.

I've been preaching the "keep the good guys and dump the DLC" creed for years. I'm over it. It's just a ruse to keep us reeled-in forever.

The only way this party will learn a lesson is when it realizes the fruits of placating the right-wing. If that takes a loss of the majority...well, it won't be any worse than having a "filibuster-proof majority" that is forced to cater to the whims of Lieberman.

[Teaser]

2. because the people you were driving don't deserve your help?

lame.

[stray cat]

5. Or the sole motivation was not to help them but to use them?

[RagAss]

7. Was to help them vote for people they believed would help them.

I won't perpetrate this lie any longer.

[Kaleva]

10. Do they believe it was for a lie?

[RagAss]

12. Not at the time. Do I believe they know now?...I hope so.

[Kaleva]

8. That's how I read it.

[stray cat]

3. I would help many of them - Feingold included

[LooseWilly]

6. Get a job driving a taxi. That way you'll know you're appreciated, when you take their money.

And if they ain't got no money... no ride for them.

:)

It's the American way.

[EFerrari]

15. No, the America way is to take the fare up front and then

throw your ride under the bus.

[LooseWilly]

18. Heh, taxi drivers are more apt to be prosecuted by the police than politicians.

Though a night driver might be able to get away with throwing passengers under a bus. (The taxi police don't like to work nights.)

Taking a fare's money up front is definitely a regular practice if one suspects that the fare isn't meaning to pay (in the industry parlance, a passenger is an interchangeable term with a fare... because a passenger is nothing more to a driver than the fare money that they represent). The hugely crooked taxi business, however, still isn't as crooked as politics though... since a taxi driver, once paid, will almost always take the fare where they want to go.

[rwheeler31]

13. Not yet we have more work to do.

[RagAss]

14. Like what? Completely selling out to big business?

[Hannah Bell]

17. yes, they take down Social Security next.

war, health "deform," taking down Detroit, school union-busting -- on to bust SS!

It takes democrats to kill the new deal -- the rank & file would kick if the pubs did the dirty work.

[regnaD kciN]

20. Right now, I fear that the "more work to do"...

...involves "turning the scoundrels out" -- and that includes Barack Obama.

Seriously, I think it will take the multi-decade task of building a new party with an explicit progressive basis. The Democratic Party, even with majorities everywhere, is totally useless. Time to let it go the way of the Whigs.

[maglatinavi]

21. Done!!!

I am feeling the same way as you...but the feeling is worse thinking the Repugs alternative is a lot worse... Maybe Hillary can be recruited... profound sigh!!!:grr: :grr: :grr:

[TreasonousBastard]

22. So you're just gonna give up? What kind of candyass...

talk is this?

Who guaranteed you were going to get your way, and, even more important, since when does this service you provide come with a requirement that you get your way.

I come from places where the machines ran everything-- "democracy" was a sham unless you had two major Democratic machines at war with each other, giving you a chance to actually choose sides. Elections were run and rigged by the machine, and you had to get permission from the county bosses to get anything done.

And you dare complain about this cockup in Washington?

[MineralMan]

23. Then, you're irrelevant. But thanks for letting us know.

[flyarm]

24. they don't need you now..now they have the big boys money to hire drivers for the litlle old folks

who always vote!!

[CBR]

25. So you made it through the corporate policies of Clinton and TANF

and the failed health care and NAFTA and... but Obama, screw it. I am getting really skeptical of people who loved, and stuck by, Clinton (I understand this does not apply to alot of you) but give up on Obama very quickly. Really skeptical.

I appreciate both Presidents and disagree with both on many governing issues.

[SIMPLYB1980]

26. Ya'll are just so cute.

Why the hell are you on this sight if you have given up?

[jgraz]

28. This from the couch potato who's never driven anyone to the polls

Oh sorry, why don't you tell us some more about how you go arrested protesting the war? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=46187&mesg_id=46249

:rofl:

[SIMPLYB1980]

29. I did more than my share. Lots of people

volunteered to work for the Obama campaign. What did you do other than complain on DU?

[jgraz]

30. Are those the pics from right before you got arrested?

:rofl:

[SIMPLYB1980]

31. So you didn't do shit to get Obama elected.

:rofl:

[jgraz]

34. Nice change of subject. Too bad you get another FAIL.

Most people who've been paying minimal attention know that I was working for and donating to Obama, both during the primaries and the general.

Now, tell us some more about your heroic arrest. We're on pins and needles here!

[SIMPLYB1980]

35. Nice avoidance on your part as well.

:popcorn:

[jgraz]

39. You do realize you just admitted you're avoiding the question

And, no, directly answering your BS accusation is not "avoidance on my part as well". :eyes:

[swilton]

27. It's the Green Party or Ralph Nader for me

[brooklynite]

33. Then, you'll be leaving Democratc Underground...

Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office.

[dysfunctional press]

38. two things-

it doesn't say we have to support them ALL.
it doesn't say we have to vote for any of them.

sorry. :shrug:

but- you are always free to start your own message board/website with WHATEVER rules YOU want. :hi:

[Ignis]

40. Right back atcha: "Democrats and other progressives" (nt)

[Vinca]

42. As much as I love the DU, I would never choose an Internet forum

over what I believe in. If I get disgusted enough with Democrats (and I'm real close) to go to a third party, I'll be gone from here.

[Iggo]

32. Oh, the fucking drama.

If the people threatening to leave the party (read: threatening to leave DU) would actually do it, GD wouldn't smell so bad, and GD: P wouldn't be an insane asylum anymore.

Go, people! Go now!

[niceypoo]

36. No shit

Ive read about ten threads already this morning about how the drama queens are going to take their toy and run home crying to their mommies.

DU is turning into troll central station

[derby378]

37. Look...

Every voter deserves a chance to be heard. Don't let your anger at the Powers That Be up on Capitol Hill motivate you to prevent your fellow Democrats from casting their votes at the polls. It's not their fault.

Okay? :hi:

[lame54]

41. thank you for your 25 years...

that's more than a lot of people on here have done