Bush fails to pardon border guards who shot a drug smuggler

[Imagevision]

This story has been covered only by Lou Dobbs but needs to be spread!

Bush pardoned 16 criminals including five drug dealers at Christmastime, but so far has refused to pardon the two U.S. Border Patrol agents who were trying to defend Americans against drug smugglers. It makes us wonder which side the self-proclaimed "compassionate" president is on.

Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean were guarding the Mexican border near El Paso, Texas, on Feb. 17, 2005, when they intercepted a van carrying 743 pounds of marijuana. For what happened next, they were convicted and sentenced under a statute that was designed to impose heavy punishment on criminal drug smugglers caught in the commission of a crime.

Amid protests and a flurry of last-minute efforts by congressmen, two border patrol agents are scheduled today to begin long prison sentences for their actions in the shooting and wounding of a Mexican drug smuggler who was granted full immunity to testify against them.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PhyllisSchlafly/2007/01/01/we_need_compassion_for_our_border_guards&Comments=true
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53805

[LeftyMom]

1. Holy shit, did you just cite Phyllis Schaflay and World Net Daily on DU?

Damn. Big brass ones on you. :wow:

[NoSheep]

2. Bizarre.

[katsy]

3. Good one.

:rofl:

[mikelgb]

6. we're still on DU right?

[LeftyMom]

9. I think so.

It can't be Free Republic since we have avatars and indoor plumbing.

[NNN0LHI]

17. In the same thread at that. The poster will likely cite Lou Dobbs next

Amazing.

Don

[LeftyMom]

20. Somebody else beat him to it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3178553#3178665

Don't schools talk about checking sources out before citing them anymore?

I mean, it's Phyllis Schaflay, for pity's sake. :wow: What next? "Muslims worship the Moon God, 'cause Jack Chick told me so?" Check your sources out, people. If you don't know the name, google them and see if they have a Wiki, at the very least.

[originalpckelly]

24. I've seen a story from a man named Hal Turner...

I had to look him up in wikipedia, and he's a freaking WHITE SUPREMACIST!

I know they didn't mean it, and it wasn't a racist story (is was about China dumping the dollar) so I kind of give them a pass.

People need to research their fucking sources.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Nor, should he have.

[Richard Steele]

8. Shooting an unarmed man in the back was still a CRIME, last I checked.

I'm fine with the sentences they recieved.

[Imagevision]

14. Drug smuggler caught with 743 pounds of marijuana was still a CRIME, last I checked

[LeftyMom]

15. We don't have summary executions for alleged drug smugglers, last I checked.

:shrug:

[Richard Steele]

19. And we have things called "trials" for such situations. A badge is not a license to kill.

[Suich]

5. The man who prosecuted this case was on both

O'Reilly and Hannity last week. I agree with the verdict.

:hi:

[cynatnite]

7. Didn't these men shoot a guy running away and then tried to cover it up?

Least that's what I've heard. Doesn't sound like they need to be let off scott free.

[frylock]

10. they shot a guy in tha back as he ran away..

and then tried to cover up the evidence. Of course Dobbs' racist ass wants them pardoned. Dobbs hasn't seen, met, or heard about a mexican he doesn't hate yet.

[fasttense]

11. The sources aside

I don't think these border agents were treated fairly.

I sure as heck wouldn't trust Schlafly or world net daily to give you the truth.

Here is a more reliable link on the agents.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

[LeftyMom]

13. As already mentioned above, Dobbs isn't any better on this issue.

He likes whipping people up into a froth about the hoarde of invading brown people who will ruin our economy and knock up our wives and daughters!!! He treats the minutemen like honored guests instead of the obscure racist militia group they are.

He's not a good source on this issue, unless you're looking for a skewed and racist agenda.

[sampsonblk]

12. He has no legit reason to pardon them...

They are criminals in uniform and should be prosecuted.

[Wizard777]

16. They broke the law. Why shouldn't they go to jail?

The most dangerous criminal in our society is the one that has a badge. Here in Baltimore we have sent a police officer to prison for 315 years for stealing and selling drugs in uniform. We also have others awaiting trial for arresting a woman for possesion of Marijuana and then raping her at the police station. In New Orlean they had a drug ring operating out of the police department. They carried out executions on duty. Let not forget all the police officers that abandoned NOLA durring Katrina. If these officer had done TRULY done nothing wrong. Then I would support a pardon. But they did and I don't. Much like alcohol prohibition. Drug prohibition is having an ever increasing corrupting influence upon our police. For all you know these guys shot the smuggler because he was trying to sell on the wrong turf. We are a nation of law. It's bad enough we have a President that think he do what ever he damned well pleases. We cannot tollerate that from our police either. If they destroyed or tampered with the evidence of thier shooting. It doesn't exactly sound like they were doing this for We The People. It sound to me like they were doing it for the local Kingpin. here in Maryland we are adopting Zero tollerance of police crime. People that have a formal education in Law enforcement and see the effects of crime first hand should be the MOST accountable to the law. not the least. I'm a big fan of Lou Dobbs. But if he continue to support Police Corruption. That will change. No get out jail free or murder with impunity cards for the police just for supporting Lou's pet project.

[Wizard777]

18. They broke the law. Whys shouldn't they go to jail?

The most dangerous criminal in our society is the one that has a badge. Here in Baltimore we have sent a police officer to prison for 315 years for stealing and selling drugs in uniform. We also have others awaiting trial for arresting a woman for possesion of Marijuana and then raping her at the police station. In New Orlean they had a drug ring operating out of the police department. They carried out executions on duty. Let not forget all the police officers that abandoned NOLA durring Katrina. If these officer had done TRULY done nothing wrong. Then I would support a pardon. But they did and I don't. Much like alcohol prohibition. Drug prohibition is having an ever increasing corrupting influence upon our police. For all you know these guys shot the smuggler because he was trying to sell on the wrong turf. We are a nation of law. It's bad enough we have a President that think he do what ever he damned well pleases. We cannot tollerate that from our police either. If they destroyed or tampered with the evidence of thier shooting. It doesn't exactly sound like they were doing this for We The People. It sound to me like they were doing it for the local Kingpin. here in Maryland we are adopting Zero tollerance of police crime. People that have a formal education in Law enforcement and see the effects of crime first hand should be the MOST accountable to the law. not the least. I'm a big fan of Lou Dobbs. But if he continue to support Police Corruption. That will change. No get out jail free or murder with impunity cards for the police just for supporting Lou's pet project.

[B Calm]

21. bet he don't waste time pardoning Libby!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. Lou Dobbs is really dialing up the hate speech on this one.

Who's he going to ask pardons for next? Klans people who lynch black people?

[Wizard777]

23. More than likely. Apparently Lou Dobbs supports terrorism.......

and wars founded upon lies and racial prejudice like the War on Drugs. Today Harry J. Anslingers campaign to create political change by use of fear would be called terrorism. Also one of these days they are going to make it crime to lie to congress even if it results in a war.

[Disturbed]

25. I agree that they should do prison time but

not 12 years. Five years would be a fair sentence. It is unfortunate that their families will suffer for their terrible judgments. It seems that they couldn't bare allowing the drug smuggler to get away so they tried to kill him then covered up their actions.

[Wizard777]

27. In Baltimore we sent a cop away for 315 years.

Everyone said the same thing including the judge. The sentence was too long. But if that were a poor person that didn't have a formal education in law enforcement robbing drug dealers and selling the drugs. They would be screaming it wasn't nearly long enough. I have no sympathy for cops that break the law. I remeber when Judges used to say that ignorance of the law is no excuse. Now appaerntly a formal education in law is. I don't buy it. In fact I would favor a law that required a mandatory doubling of the sentence for police officers. The most dangerous criminal in society is the one that has a badge.

[burythehatchet]

26. Lets see, shot a guy in the back and then destroyed the evidence of their crime

try not to make Lou Dobbs your go-to newsman.