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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:14 PM
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I remember him saying she works at CIA at CPD.
Take that Faux News!

Do you know what CPD means????????


Counter-Proliferation Division
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:16 PM
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1. but, but, I thought it was a desk job shuffling papers!
:sarcasm:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:17 PM
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2. That's what people like
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 01:44 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/13/04720/9340

Victoria Toensing, Representative Peter King, and P. J. O'Rourke insist that Valerie was nothing, just a desk jockey.


http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/13/04720/9340
Novak said a confidential source at the CIA told him Plame was "an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operative and not in charge of undercover operatives."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200507150010
CNN congressional correspondent Ed Henry repeated the false claim that former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV "suggested" that his wife, covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, was not undercover at the time columnist Robert D. Novak

http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2004/02/waas-m-02-12.html
"When I called the CIA in July, they confirmed Mrs. Wilson's involvement in a mission for her husband on a secondary basis ... they asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else.

"According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operative, and not in charge of undercover operatives. So what is the fuss about, pure Bush-bashing?"

http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200507150827.asp
Clifford D May
Is this splitting hairs? Not at all. In Washington, plenty of people are acquainted with CIA operatives who are not working undercover.


http://www.talkleft.com/story/2004/01/01/450/84245
"It could be embarrassing but not illegal," said Victoria Toensing, who was chief counsel of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence when Congress passed the law protecting the identities of undercover agents.

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/07/13/hannity_and_the_gop_try_but_fail_to_spin_plame_outing_as_no_big_deal.php
G. Gordon Liddy repeated his GOP talking point, that Plame was not undercover, that the nation's security was not at stake.


http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:T7JX35XBHpYJ:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443066/posts+plame+was+not+undercover&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=22
JUST FOR FUN, ARE YOU SHOCKED NOW CharlieChan?

To: hispanarepublicana
I had a hunch she wasn't a covert agent.
Ever since this thing surfaced, there was constant hemming and hahing about whether she was or wasn't.
Frankly, I'd be shocked if she ever was undercover. Odds are she was part of the CIA affirmative action hiring campaign.
And has been nothing more than a paper-shuffler.



21 posted on 07/14/2005 3:10:07 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:22 PM
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4. That's right! She was just a secretary!
What I heard from Ann "The Truth" Coulter anyway. :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:21 PM
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3. That shoots down all the rights talking points
as well as most of Libby's defensive strategy (he knew all about Plame and her status and he didn't use proper protocol with Ari).
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:22 PM
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5. Note that Ari said he didn't know what it meant.
I'm unclear at this point if Libby just used the initials or what - Ari's a press sec. He can't be expected to necessarily know offhand what Counter-Proliferation means.

Libby, can.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:28 PM
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7. It's impossible he wouldn't know what the CPD was.
The CPD has been critical in the post-Soviet era, interms of both foreign policy and defense. The number of times the spectre of weapons from the former-USSR being traded on the arms market has been in the news over the last 16 years is virtually uncountable. The CPD has been at the nucleus of this, and the Niger shit, since the very beginning.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:40 PM
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11. I hope I wasn't misunderstood but I meant Ari might not have known offhand.
It'd have been central to Libby's work on the other hand, to the point Ari would be completely flabbergasted if he'd realized at the time what Libby had disclosed to him in a decidedly improper manner.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:32 PM
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9. He meant not understanding what hush hush meant
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 01:33 PM by mmonk
(as in definitely classified information he couldn't disclose).
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:39 PM
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10. No, that's not what I meant.
I meant that a press secretary wouldn't necessarily know what CPD does on a daily basis offhand because it's not part of his own job on a daily basis at all. It's part of Libby's job, not Ari's.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:25 PM
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6. Ya Fox must have said she was a paper pusher like
1000 times Novak too

they lied to the public

Credibility
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:30 PM
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8. Matthews to NewsBusters: Plame Story Too Complicated to Cover Now
http://newsbusters.org/node/7482


It's just getting good Tweety, too complicated for you now?
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 01:51 PM
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12. Found this post at FDL to be a very brief and clear explanation of CPD
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 01:53 PM by Mind_your_head
It was helpful to me, so I'm just gonna pass it along here:

What is CPD please?

The (WMD) Counter-Proliferation Division of the CIA.

It is important to remember that the CIA is divided between Operations (i.e. people involved in doing secret/covert stuff) and Analysis (people analysing information).

CPD was “Operations — “Analysis” had its own division that dealt with WMD intelligence called WINPAC.

By telling Ari that Valerie was CPD, he was telling him her work involved secret operations, not just analyzing stuff….


edit to add link: http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/29/libby-live-ari-fleischer-one/#comments (Post #93)



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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 02:27 PM
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13. Fleischer Tells Jury That Libby Told Him About Plame

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/29/AR2007012900504.html

Fleischer Tells Jury That Libby Told Him About Plame

By Carol D. Leonnig and Amy Goldstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, January 29, 2007; 1:22 PM

Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told a jury today that Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff was the first person to disclose the identity of an undercover CIA officer to him in July 2003. Valerie Plame's identity was revealed in the press days later.

Taking the stand just before noon in the perjury trial of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Fleischer said that in an unusual lunch in the White House mess, Libby told him that the wife of a prominent war critic worked in the CIA's counterproliferation division. Fleischer, a crucial prosecution witness, said Libby told him at the July 7 lunch that former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was sent to Niger not by the vice president, but by Wilson's own wife at the CIA.

Wilson later accused the administration of twisting information he gathered, in order to justify the invasion of Iraq, and some have charged that Plame's name was leaked to discredit him.

Fleischer said he believed that Libby told him Plame's name, but could not be sure.

"He added that this was something hush-hush or on the QT, that not many people knew this information," Fleisher said. "My impression was Mr. Libby was telling me this was kind of newsy."
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