Obama will have to be a holding place

[warrior1]

until we can get a true progressive in the WH. That' about the only thing good I can say about having him be the POTUS.

Damn, I was really hoping that 2009 was going to be a great year.

stupid me.

[Richardo]

1. See you in about..... never.

If you think anyone to the left of Obama has the slightest chance of being anything more than a Representative from the 10th District in Ohio you've got a rude awakening coming.

Have a safe trip back to your home planet! :hi:

[cali]

2. Don't hold your breath.

Sadly, it'll be a very long time before we see a progressive in the WH.

[calico1]

3. Well unfortunately when the occupant of the WH

screws up, voters tend to vote for a candidate from the other party.

At this rate, Obama is a holding place for the next GOP president.

[chandler2]

5. Agree and here's a prediction for 2012

Mitt Romney

[Buzz Clik]

6. Indeed. And judging by the endless hysteria at DU, the old saying will be proven true:

"We get the politicians we deserve."

We simply have no capacity to appreciate what we have; instead, we choose to wallow in the despair of not attaining what we want.

[Buzz Clik]

4. It will be a long time coming, mostly because...

... the standards being held by most DUers who consider themselves "progressive" are impossible to achieve. They want everything and they want it NOW. They have no concept of the political landscape, they have no patience.

My guess is that even if the God of Progressives (aka Dennis Kucinich) had been elected president, we'd be having the same conversation today.

[yodoobo]

8. +1

Some people are professional whiners. They have to be unhappy in order to be happy.

[yodoobo]

7. I don't think that DU will ever be happy

We have in office, the best and most active President in generations, yet the griping and complaining about him is little different than that on any rightwing board.

I don't think there is ANY President that would satisfy the gripers here.


If the gripers get there way, they will only stifle Obama and yes he will be holding place. A holding place for a rightwinger in 2012.

[Richardo]

9. Bingo

This board is filled with a large, whiny, frothy faction that bemoan the state of pending legislation, yet have little or no concept of the process. To many, the House of Representatives and the Senate are interchangeable, and many don't even have remedial knowledge of the rules, or even where some of the most prominent members of Congress sit ("Can Kucinich filibuster?").

It's pathetic.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. I would love to see a leftist candidate win a national election

I say leftist because the term "progressive" is already cowardly bullshit that caves to right wing rhetoric, an attempt (and a clumsy one) to resuscitate a left position by calling it something else. Therein we already see why no progressive candidate seems able to cobble together double digits in the national vote: the rhetoric of the progressives is exhausted and ineffective, and has been reduced largely to snark and outrage - two rhetorical moves that never won any election ever. And the "progressives" are proud of this rhetorical approach! They bask in martyrdom and insults. The progressives fail EVEN WHEN their position is arguably held by a majority! That takes a particular talent for portraying yourself negatively and annoying all those you come into contact with. The left doesn't win because their rhetorical tactics are flawed or obsolete. Needless to say, they then go about blaming that failure on everybody else, which only endears them further to the electorate, and makes them look even more childish and unsuitable.