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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:09 PM
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So I guess Edwards was right"You don't offer a seat at the table to Ins.Cos and Big Pharma
because they will eat all the food".They have eaten all the food haven't they?And the litlle people aren't to even be offered the scraps!
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:10 PM
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1. edwards was right. nt
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:10 PM
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2. Watch the Edwards haters post their thoughts.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 04:11 PM by tonysam
He always had the best message, and of course he had to go, thanks in huge part to his own stupidity.

I was NEVER sorry I supported him in 2004 and 2008, for it was ALWAYS about the mesage and not the man.

The message is being buried.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:11 PM
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3. IrRiellevent.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:12 PM
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4. Not funny. Nobody cares about Lisa Jo Druck.
It's the COUNTRY that's being screwed over.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:12 PM
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5. Although I'm not excusing Edwards' infidelity
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 04:13 PM by LisaM
I seriously wonder, and not for the first time, if he was set up (not saying he should have succumbed, if so). Long before the first primaries, I remember he was the only one saying that we needed to institute restrictions on drug company ads. I never heard one other candidate say that.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:13 PM
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8. Yep. He was.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 04:14 PM by tonysam
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce put a political "hit" on him, as you may recall, and it was all over for him.

As soon as he started gaining traction for the South Carolina primary, he suddenly dropped out because of what I contend was blackmail. Somebody had that "Rielle" shit in their oppo research.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:48 PM
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23. I remember that- in fact, he mentioned that a Kerry administration would do just that
during the vice presidential debate.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:35 PM
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32. I never cared what he did in his personal life.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:12 PM
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6. Loved his rhetoric.
Sorry it came from such a personally flawed man.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:14 PM
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27. Flawed??
Depends on your culture. In France, he would be a statesman; in the Prudish States of America, normal human sexuality is cast as a "flaw".
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:54 PM
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34. His sexual indiscretions were the least of his flaws.
.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:13 PM
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7. Yes, but he forgot to include hope and change in his message. n/t
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:14 PM
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9. knr. well, it seems that the insur corps and big pharma got what
was promised to them by Rahm and Obama in July in those not so transparent meetings...

(Oh, they wouldn't sell us out would they?!)

maybe give them two seats at the table, one each, and be sure that there are single payer advocates, real people without health care coverage, and others represented. No damn "secret" deals.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:14 PM
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10. That wasn't the problem. The problem was they EXCLUDED those for single payer
In fact they went out of there way if you remember the bacus(sic) meetings



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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:14 PM
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11. The little people ARE the scraps. n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:15 PM
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12. "power will not be given up. It must be taken."
there is little question who calls the shots these days.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:15 PM
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13. Yes, he was and he would have made a good President.
However, it's too bad that he got involved in a sex scandal because if he had been elected, the Mellon-Sciafe swiftboat crowd who stalked Clinton wouldn't have given him a moment's rest.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:16 PM
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14. He was the best one we fielded, and I am so
pissed off he screwed it up so badly by being involved with someone who was so shady and hurting his wife and family in the process.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:19 PM
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17. I agree to a point but I am not sure I see what is happning as much better.
And this President doesn't even have the excuse of a scandal hindering him.And has a majority in both Houses to allegedly do his bidding, which seems to be acting at the behest of Big Pharma and the Ins. Cos!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:19 PM
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18. I disagree, altho I was an early supporter of JE. In retrospect, his judgement has proven
to be so flawed that I would not consider him as presidential material today.

However, he was spot on when he made the remark about the corps taking all the food at the table. He knew.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:26 PM
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20. It wouldn't have come to that because he would never have been elected with that scandel.
Private lives shouldn't matter, but they do.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:46 PM
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22. If the scandal hadn't been known until after he took office, it would have.
I guess we should thank the tabloids (mixed feelings) for exposing him and saving us the national trauma. To his credit he dropped out before the primaries would have made a difference. He knew he was in a pot of water that could start boiling at any time.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:16 PM
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15. Edwards was right about most things during his campaign.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:17 PM
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16. Oh, you can offer them a seat -- but expect them to steal the table.
And all the chairs, and the rest of the house, to boot.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:01 PM
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25. heh heh! n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:24 PM
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19. Yes, Edwards was right and he wanted to protect people in poverty.
Considering the hits we are taking right now, I can't help but think he sensed what was about to befall those of us in poverty.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:40 PM
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21. Yes. "The Poor" weren't mentioned again in Campaign 2008.
I really thought we would get a few crumbs, but the greedy bastards took it ALL,
and the "Centrist" "Democrats" (Obama included) were only too happy to oblige them.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:48 PM
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24. He gave a nice speech. I voted for Edwards in the 2004 primary
against the recommendation of all my friends (who supported Dean). Tell me what Edwards has done besides give a great speech with important themes? Seems the arguments against Obama could be made against Edwards as well.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:20 PM
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28. Edwards has been personally working in impovershed countries
since the election and has provided medicine at his own expense.
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Scarsdale Vibe Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:05 PM
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26. The Senate bill is pretty much the same as Edwards' health care plan was.
Mandates, subsidies, regional health exchanges, pressure on employers, evidence-based medical commissions, investment in preventive care and IT, expansion of Medicaid, community rating.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:23 PM
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29. But...but...but...he played with that girl's hoohoo!
He sure was right about our corporate overlords, though, and I am proud to have been one of the few to have the privilege of voting for him in the 2008 primaries.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:24 PM
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30. They didn't JUST eat all the food. They broke all the plates, stole all the silverware, poisoned
the dog, and kicked the cat. And they were aided and abetted by the guys we hired to negotiate on our behalf.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:32 PM
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31. Yes, he was right on this - which makes his indiscretion all the more offensive.
This guy took himself out of the game by being stupid and selfish.

I can never forgive him for NOT getting out of the race in 2007.

I backed him until he dropped out in early 2008, and would have supported his appointment to a top spot until he flamed out. I never doubted his political positions or his bona fides representing against the health care industry.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:41 PM
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33. I wasn't and am not an Edwards fan,
nor do I believe for a minute that he wouldn't have invited those people to the table, but that was still one of the best and truest bits of rhetoric to come out of the entire campaign.
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