I'll give the President a little credit

[AllentownJake]

If he wanted to expose what an evil sick place the US Government is when it comes to elected leaders. Mission fully accomplished. If he wanted to put a spot-light on scum. Mission accomplished.

I think people were under a delusion that it was the Republicans that were just the problem. 8 years later you take a look at what Democrats are doing and all you can say is Fuck.

There is one political party in America. The money party and it has two co-equal subsidiaries.

[Divine Discontent]

1. guess it exposes the ones who are controlled by $$$ quite well

also, a year into this mess, it also exposes people with blind allegiance to the WH, and those who are more thoughtful on issues, and many here who truly have a plethora of knowledge about the issues compared to the worst of the elected hacks.

[AllentownJake]

2. The idea we don't have our own equivalent of idiot evangelicals

Is certainly out the window.

The only difference is social issues between the two political parties. Economically they are both vested in protecting the same people.

[Divine Discontent]

3. sums it up well. and even with many Dems in the Senate/House who are believers in whatever faith,

most don't have a sickening closed-minded view on issues like a few select Dems who make me nauseous, do! Those select few need to be exposed as hacks and corporate shills.

I love what Al Franken did to one of the nuttiest slimeballs of the senate yesterday - that was GREAT!

Franken: "I object." Joementum: "REALLLLY! Okay, I don't take it personally." Franken: "I bet."

[LuvNewcastle]

4. They're all filthy.

Obama is too. He took money from the Gold Sacks just like Congress took money from the insurance companies. Until we have federally financed elections, we're just gonna see more of the same. Until we clean up the corruption, all our work and our votes are in vain.

[sandyj999]

5. My Feeling Exactly! I couldn't have said it better. n/t

[Raster]

6. Two parties in Washington, fed by the same hand out of the same trough.

The money in American politics dirties everything it touches. Everything.

[TorchTheWitch]

7. it's only Dem party loyalists that have thought only Repubs were the problem

I've always said for decades the Dem party has been taken over by corporatists. For decades, my entire voting life, I have ALWAYS had to vote for "Candidate Not As Bad As" rather than one that actually represented the working masses. NONE of this shit was a surprise to me seeing as I've known since Reagan that there IS no party that represents the average working stiff.

Most people aren't party loyalists either Dem or Repub and vote for whoever seems less of a shithead or they vote on a single wedge issue or they don't vote at all because most people realize that politics is a racket and politicians are lying slobs that don't give a rat's patoot about good government for the people and they're all drunk on their own power and greed.

[pecwae]

11. It'd be helpful

if others could read your down-to-earth and heartfelt post. The trouble is that most have to learn through their own experiences, i.e. getting punked by glorious campaign promises and slogans.

[TorchTheWitch]

16. after 30 years of getting punked when will people finally wake up?

Just how much perpetual punking does it take to finally realize Dems have not ACTUALLY been a party of the working class? Even now there's a shit ton of people here that refuse to get it. How brainwashed do you have to be to excuse every single damn thing for DECADES that Dems have either done or refused to stop Repubs from doing that is detrimental to the working class before you FINALLY realize, you've been had?

People don't even KNOW anymore what the hell liberal, progressive and centrist are. NIXON was more of a liberal than almost all the Dems we have now! That's how far both parties have run to the right. And they both ran so far there is no party that represents the working masses whatsoever. Maybe it's gone on for so damn long that most people here weren't even alive during the time that Dems used to represent the working masses and Repubs weren't entirely corporatist either so they think that the Dem party as it is is normal.

I remember when the news reported the actual news and journalists worked for the people, not the government.

I remember when if you were a good worker you didn't have to worry about getting fired so the company could replace you with two part-time people so they could get out of paying health benefits and a decent salary.

I remember when if you had a job you got full health coverage for free with a $500/year deductible and insurance companies paid the bills.

I remember when there were no HMO's letting bean counters make medical decisions that over-road the doctors.

I remember when people got pensions, not 401K's.

I remember when Maidenform the bra company was found out to have a factory in Mexico so they could take advantage of cheap labor, and even Repubs chastised them so severely for stealing American's jobs for cheap labor that they had to close it and bring those jobs back to the US.

I remember when only one parent with an average paying job could be the sole bread-winner and own a home and raise a family - even a large family.

I remember when people worked 9-5 and got paid for an hour lunch break instead of 8-5 with no paid hour lunch break.

I remember when creditcard companies charged a normal interest rate and they didn't give them out to people with bad credit or no job - being able to GET a creditcard was a matter of pride.

I dunno, maybe if you haven't lived long enough to remember what it was like to not get thoroughly shit on by both political parties then you'd think what's going on now is normal. It isn't. And it isn't because BOTH parties ran to the right and little by little cut working people off at the knees until now we're standing on our bloody stumps and party loyalists are saying Thank You.

[quaker bill]

8. He has also given lie

to the fantasy on the left that our winning a single election is sufficient for broad scale change. Folks love to go on about FDR as a model. It is however important to remember that FDR's best work was done with only 16 Republicans in the Senate, not 40.

[WVRICK13]

9. When The Candidates Are All Puppets

we get what we get. We have not had a democracy for a long time. The difference is the politicians are no longer concerned with appearances.

[madokie]

10. I haven't given up yet

I won't as long as I'm not locked up and I'm still breathing. I'm not a quitter but I am a rec'er and I just gave you one

[katkat]

12. madokie

I am not giving up either. It will just take me a few seconds to get up off the floor after being sucker punched.

[madokie]

13. Peace

Have the greatest of holidays

[Toots]

14. "There is very little difference between the Parties"

Ralph Nader... People here sure didn't think much about that statement back in 2000.

[katkat]

17. toots

Back then there was a difference. Do you seriously think Gore = Bush? Of course, Ralphie didn't give us a chance to find out.

[Skittles]

23. too bad a better candidate wasn't saying it

[DemReadingDU]

15. The Money Party. Yep

Autorank has written a series of articles about The Money Party
http://www.electionfraudnews.com/index.html

[HughMoran]

18. Uh-huh

It's part of what's involved in "pragmatism" - a swear word at DU.

[arcadian]

19. Abortion, religion, all wedge issues to keep the common herd distracted

While the Money Party loots the Treasury.

[kentuck]

20. Knowingly or not..

I think the President is forcing the people to make him do it. He said that during the campaign. Maybe he realizes that he cannot do it alone? He needs the the people to apply the pressure on the Democrats as well as the Republicans. Perhaps he knows that??

[laughingliberal]

21. It's sad and it's scary. I am glad most of my life is behind me

I'm a little worried cause my family has a history of longevity. Damn, I could live 40 more years. Is that tragic? I fear long life at this point.

[Skittles]

22. interesting point, Jake

I guess what is being proved to me is what I suspected all along - they're really not looking out for me