"Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy." -Proverbs 31:9

[lightningandsnow]

Wouldn't it be great if a lot of so-called Christians remembered that part of the bible?

[Romulox]

Amen. nt

[chandler2]

1. What "they" would say

Oh, I defend the rights of everyone. I believe that poor and needy people should have the right to hire any lawyer they choose to.

[Deep13]

2. They would say that it is an individual duty...

...not a governmental duty. They would point to their inadequate charitable work as evidence of their compliance. They look at charity as something they do when it suits them to feel holy and not in terms of solving the problem of poverty.

[chandler2]

3. There's a little more to it

They "look at charity" as something they do when their tax adviser suggests it as a way to reduce their tax burden.

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. It's also a great way to score brownie points with the big man upstairs.

[AnneD]

7. Not really.....

charity is NOT a quid pro quo. The purpose of giving to charity is to make YOU a better person. You need to exercise you muscles to up your body. Charity is a way to exercise your heart (compassion) muscle. This is the way to be more Christ like.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. There are a lot of people out there who see it the way I said it. Seriously. Sad as that is.

[AnneD]

9. Even if they DO believe that......

They will be coming up short on the scales on judgement day. Besides it is never all about you anyway.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. So true, so true. It's one of my arguments against charity as a replacement for government services,

along with the point that there is no way that charity could cover as many people as well as government services do.

But do they care? No. Taxes are evil. Government assistance is evil. And they have a right to be charitable if they want and would rather use that tax money in that way. (And I bet an awful lot of that "charity" would go to woman-hating groups like Focus on the Family, so it would be a double whammy.)

[Deep13]

5. That too.

Ultimately, they think the rich should have full discretion to dispense or withhold charity and to put whatever conditions on it that they want. They are oppose to the public requiring it in order to provide basic services as a right of citizenship. In short, they hate democracy.

[AnneD]

6. Proverbs has the most practicle advice.....

for anyone. Also the borrower is slave to the lender is another one (can't remember the verse right now)

[SidDithers]

11. "Be good for goodness' sake" - American Humanist Association...

who needs a bible?

Sid

[damntexdem]

14. You better watch out. You better not cry.

We Humanists don't need a Bible. But Bible-believers do, so I love it when good quotes are found there. And we Humanists should appreciate such sentiments wherever expressed.

[lightningandsnow]

15. That also works.

:)

[damntexdem]

12. There you go: quoting that leftbagger Bible again!

;-)

[Echo In Light]

13. K&R