This is NOT an anti-Chinese thread. This is not an anti-Obama thread.

[Stinky The Clown]

This is a thread about where we really stand in the world.

China is now the biggest bad-ass on the planet. Today's semi-impromptu meeting between our president and China's top guy could have happened to any US president. Our country is so far in debt to them that we have little choice but to request things and hope for the best.

We are, indeed, pwned.

This goes back to Clinton, with China getting MFN status with us. This goes back to Nixon and the ping pong team.

This goes back to Confucius.

If not farther.

[debbierlus]

1. Just finished posting on this very subject...

People keep waiting for the America we knew to come back.

It is NOT going to happen.

[Deja Q]

2. Well, since the politicians were in bed with corporate lobbyists, put them to the sword.

:shrug:

Or we could ALL change for the better.

Whatever happens happens. Maybe life is but a dream.

[madrchsod]

3. fuck china and india

i`m sick of looking at products made by the chinese and indians that i and millions of american workers used to make.


i remember when this nation was`t a land of cowards....


this ain`t my country anymore.

[dusmcj]

9. can you describe the derivation of your handle ?

it sounds a lot like 'madr chod' which is hindi (urdu ?) for 'motherfucker'. How come you by it ?

[madrchsod]

10. interesting...

i was rchsod but after 2004 i changed it to madrchsod which is what some of my friends called me in high school. they thought i was the craziest guy in the crew. i changed it in 2004 because of the election

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

4. Financial Nuclear Armageddon is coming down the pike.

I was happier once upon a time thinking something wicked this way comes, but the Reality of our currant situation REALLY sucks!

REALLY.

[FarLeftRage]

5. Ahhh Confucius say....

You play ball with me and I play ball with you... especially when I have you by the balls.

[Myhrejl]

6. LOL

but seriously we have to cut back huge on spending to get china off our balls.

[dusmcj]

7. the chinese have some serious cultural disadvantages to fix

their history is one of cycling between poles of corruption and new brooms, with revolutions or other massive unrest removing the corrupt, and the brooms in turn becoming corrupt themselves. Very much like the rest of the third world, except the phenomenon predates western imperialism by a few thousand years, so the white devils can't be blamed. They're currently on the cusp of a similar event, as the advances of the communist revolution are pawned in order to play at the world economic tables.

And by the way, in the spirit of interdependence, by holding our debt, they're just as beholden to us as we are to them, since if our debt becomes worthless, they lose their wealth, just like all the idiots here who thought they would flip houses after their prices doubled and then couldn't pay the mortgage that was more than the sales price.

this was not an anti-Chinese reply BTW

[Myhrejl]

8. Good point

They sort of have to make sure we succeed. As well as keeping their society stable, because if their is a revolution I bet the US is going to say we don't owe the new gov a dime.