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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:47 PM
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So to all those who think Politico is a right wing news source that should never be cited
http://www.facebook.com/#/youngdems?ref=nf

Please someone email the Young Democrats of America. Honestly, when organizations of the party are using things that everyone feels is a right wing hack sight for news, you have to laugh.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:52 PM
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1. Definitions must be clarified
Around here, "right wing news source that should never be cited" actually = "site that, from time to time, says something with which I don't agree."
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:53 PM
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2. How true
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:12 PM
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4. Sorry but politico is funded by rightwing political operatives.
The facts are what they are. That does not mean that everything published by politico is biased bullshit, however everything sourced from politico is in fact suspect and needs to be independently verified because of the source.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/05/04/politico_funding/
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:31 PM
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8. Not disagreeing totally with you
Just find it funny an arm of the DNC is using them.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 10:00 PM
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11. Yeah, and MSNBC is owned by corporate behemoth General Electric.
I guess everything they say is suspect, as well.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:39 PM
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12. Partially true.
However GE is not an individual who is a political operative who funds a news outlet as a hobby. Instead it is a huge global corporation and MSNBC is just one of many investments it owns and operates. GE does of course exercise at least indirectly some editorial control over MSNBC, but comparing that influence to Robert Allbritton's Politico is just silly.

Allbritton and his dad are also connected to the Rigg's bank scandal and the Pinochet regime. A real bunch of swells. Oddly enough Allbritton and his dad aren't in gitmo. Odd because Riggs bank was involved in funding the 9/11 operation. Of course they were cleared by their pals on the 9-11 Commission. It was revealed however that Rigg's was basically a huge funnel for a variety of Saudi corrupt practices.

yeah politico should be considered a trusted source.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:06 PM
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3. Oh and-- the DLC. Front page. Right now.
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 03:06 PM by chill_wind
http://www.dlc.org/

Course, that could be because the author is Bruce Reed, CEO of the Democratic Leadership Council.

LOL..
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:18 PM
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5. I have a legitimate question, or two
Is there a published list somewhere hereabouts that lists those news sites and other sources that are verboten here as right wing?

I have cached stuff and later published excerpts here, only to have it deleted and then receive an admonition that I cannot do that, that I should read the rules. I do go back and read the rules, but that does not help if there is no list to refer to.

I ask specdifically for such a list and get no answer. Then I see right wing political ads published here, like the anti-health care ones recently by Freedomworks or one of their subsidiaries and I get confused. I see a FoxNews link allowed and I get further confused. I donate too, just not as much as a Google ad or such. Does that make me less credible and unable to express myself?

Is there a double/triple/quadruple standard that I don't know about?

I look for guidance from wiser, more experienced DUers on these points.

Watch, this will get deleted and I will be admonished again.


Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:29 PM
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7. google is your friend...
i usually check the latest news about the subject. then i`ll go through the story and check the key subjects,any links,and any sites that are mentioned in the article. sometimes a website can lead to a whole wealth of information about the subject and who and why they are mentioned. i`ve spent up to a half or more checking a opinion piece from politico and other sites.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:56 PM
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10. Research on several search engines, I do that too
but a specific instance I recall involved some timeline data (not really opinion in my mind) that was not available anywhere else, and I had looked up several items on that timeline and many news services had scrubbed same. The facts were not disputed but related stories were gone. I had cached the timeline in an effort to create a point of reference on a particular hot topic. I used only the link to the timeline page. This apparently had been included at a site that was considered objectionable in its bent and in the opinions of some of its contributors, even though the timeline I linked to did not contain any of that that I was aware of. I had only read the timeline and never went to the site's homepage. That timeline was the most useful thing I found using search engines.

Everything else in my post was relevant as well but contained no links to any little known site, it was all CNN or NYT, etc., to help make my point. I just did not see the harm in the timeline. I did not tell people to roam around that site and read everything else. I suppose the temptation is too great for some and that it is felt that any hits for visitors to any site deemed objectionable, either in part or in whole, is considered an assist for subject website.

Just so you know, I do research and the kicker here was that I had just cached a small bit of it, a timeline, that did not contain any opinions of anyone. Unless of course historical fact is now disputable hereabouts. That timeline had sat in my folders for months unread.

There are some great reserchers here at DU and I am not ashamed to say that I save their stuff from time to time. I then frequently follow up and read on the topic further. This has been a great asset, especially when some troll gives grief and starts the ad hominem attack saying "Where is your source?" etc. DU Google is your best friend in that regard. Threads disappear so quickly here that even the most read threads are on the front page for only a half a day at most.


More centavos

robdogbucky

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:22 PM
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6. politico is`t a "news service" it is a political opinion website
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 03:23 PM by madrchsod
they are one of the least creditable political sites because they allow their writers to not provide creditable sources for their articles. they also tend to mislead their stories by using misleading headlines.

when ever anyone posts an opinion or the news i always do a search on the key points and people.i have found the majority of politico`s stories should be taken with a grain of salt....a big grain of salt.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:32 PM
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9. Politico was founded by several former WAPO RW-leaning reporters
While there are exceptions, its coverage definitely slants RW.
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