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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:39 PM
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Homeland Security signs contract for 200 Million rounds of ammo...
http://www.handgunsmag.com/HG_industryintel_200912/

Winchester secured a Homeland Security contract for up to 200 million rounds of .40 S&W, ammo that will be used by Immigrations, Customs and Enforcement. The load is a 135-grain hollowpoint. No ballistics are available as this load is not yet cataloged, but it will fall under the Winchester Ranger brand.

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I wonder if this is a one-year supply? 200 million rounds....

I guess I better not make any more snarky remarks to the TSA Goons...


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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:46 PM
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That's a helluva lota bullets.
TWO HUNDRED MILLION ROUNDS?!

Man, how many guns has that agency got? .40 S&W is a pistol round, too, so that's a lot of pistol rounds they need, for whatever reason......
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:48 PM
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3. The Police $tate is a BOOMING biz
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:41 PM
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14. don't ask too many questions...
I'd hate for anyone here to learn the hard way how this ammo will be used. O8)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:46 PM
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1. Since I am gun-impaired, can you explain
what kind of gun the ammo is for?
Isn't that an awful lot of ammo for Stateside use?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:52 PM
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6. It's a .40 caliber Smith and Wesson
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 04:54 PM by WeDidIt
You go through a lot of ammo practicing and qualifying.

It would most likely be for this service side arm:



Here's a comparison of several different ammo types:

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:47 PM
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2. HOLLOWPOINT?
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:51 PM
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5. I would think it is a split order
hollow points for social work and full metal jacket for practice and qualification.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:00 PM
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8. Social work? Good one! nt
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:14 PM
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12. +1
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:02 PM
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9. Social work? Good one! nt
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 06:03 PM by OffWithTheirHeads
Oops sorry. comp bug
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:35 PM
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13. LOL... for winning hearts and minds......
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:53 PM
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7. Absolutely necessary at that caliber
a .45 ACP would stop a man easily without a hollowpoint. In order to insure oyu put a man down with a .40 S&W, you should go to hollow point.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:07 PM
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10. I was under the impression that one of the reasons for hollow point
was to keep the round from going through the good citezen and possibly injuring a bystander. That's why I keep em in my 1911 anyway cause they cost a hell of a lot more than JHP.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:52 PM
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17. Nothing to do with that. Hollow point bullets
expand on impact with flesh If the idea is to not allow through body penetration, use a frangable bullet. HP bullets mushroom on impact and cause a larger wound channel and more tissue damage. They are much more effective killing rounds than fmj ammo in the same caliber. The Geneva convention requires combatants us jacked ammunition because it does not cause quite as much damage to tissues as do hollow point rounds.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:50 PM
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4. for domestic use only
.40 is useless at the Malabar Front.

Last waaazzzhhhup of the decade?
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:09 PM
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11. Yeah but 40 is good enough to round up all of the health insurance
scofflaws and put them in the camps that some bozo is talking about upstream.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:43 PM
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15. they ARE gonna kill us all. uh oh.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:21 PM
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16. "Homeland Security"...
It still sounds Orwellian to me.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:12 PM
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18. I wonder which one has my name on it.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:38 PM
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19. Kick
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