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HipChick
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:45 PM Original message |
Obama Will Win: Why and How His Critics from the Left and Right Will be Proven Wrong |
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BunkerHill24
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm now looking forward to 2010.......and I'm pissed off...n/t |
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depakid
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Posts in all bold won't do much to stop the perception among progressives |
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BunkerHill24
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. C'mon, no way do I have "Bold" post...LOL |
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girl gone mad
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
75. I think depa was referring to the OP. |
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walldude
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well I got as far as "easily distracted left" and put this under the bird cage |
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Cant trust em
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The author is a centrist and likely writing for other centrists. |
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kstewart33
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Yes, and we all know how perfectly evil the centrists are. |
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Dr Fate
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Not evil, just wrong about almost everything for a good 10 years. |
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bvar22
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Tue Dec-22-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
86. Centrists wrong about everything for a good 10 years? |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I wont argue with you. n/t |
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jonnyblitz
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. i read his book and i thought he seemed like a flake/airhead. |
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rudy23
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yep. He was already in the hole with the false equivalence. |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Me too. I like and respect Frank Schaeffer, but am not sure he feels the same about |
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bvar22
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
68. "The Left" is the LAST to be "easily distracted". |
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QC
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. "Easily distracted" seems a better description of those who were so taken in by pretty speeches |
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Larkspur
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Progressives were very patient as we saw the public option watered down |
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treestar
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Patient? |
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Dr Fate
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. In fact, unlike Blue Dog & DLC purists, they even made some compromises w/i the party. |
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kstewart33
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Ah yes, so patient. |
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Zhade
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
65. His actions speak far louder than his admittedly nice, but empty, words. |
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gleaner
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
71. Well I guess you've seen it all then.... |
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girl gone mad
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
76. We waited 30 years for change.. |
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kstewart33
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Tue Dec-22-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. More of the same? |
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AllentownJake
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Everyone is wrong and the President is a genius chess player |
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Cant trust em
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Are articles praising the president not welcome here anymore? |
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Deleted message |
Dr Fate
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. The problem is the article uses typical disparaging talking points against DEM activists. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. So what to make of the post here yesterday... |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
87. Unaware of it. Do you think Obama's campaigners & donors are like tea-baggers? |
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Cant trust em
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Honestly, I didn't even read the article. |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
93. I did read it. It's the topic of this thread. n/t |
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Cant trust em
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Tue Dec-22-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. My comment isn't even on the content of the article. |
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QC
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Intergalactic googledimensional chess, no less. n/t |
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AllentownJake
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. The Chess board is growing faster than Insurance company stocks! nt. |
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ixion
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. okay, we'll see, Frank. |
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FrenchieCat
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. Passing it on...... |
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omega minimo
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. Given his wishy washy language on campaign, none of his capitulations to corporatism are a surprise. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. "..choices he was forced to make.." Really? Forced? By whom? The Pentagon? |
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napi21
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. Great analysis Frank. I agree, the right ONLY wants Obama to fail, |
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Enrique
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Mon Dec-21-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. I've seen this guy on Rachel Maddow's show |
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Frosty1
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. Thank You for passing this on. |
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Political Heretic
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. The "easily distracted left" for the first time has its eyes wide open. |
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kstewart33
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Hmmm, have you read the Senate bill and how it benefits the working poor? |
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Political Heretic
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Tue Dec-22-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
84. Yes I have, and no, they don't. |
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Zhade
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
66. Indeed -- we didn't go to sleep like when Clinton was elected. |
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WeDidIt
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. And the Republicans are going to let him gift wrap the win as a Christmas Present |
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bridgit
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. I recognize some of these elements as connectible; and it is true enough... |
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Dr Fate
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. DEMS should just replace their activist base with an army of people who agree with this writer. |
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girl gone mad
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
78. Nothing fires people up like incremental reform.. |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. I think the people who support all those things you list should start working for DEMS. |
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suzie
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
83. What activist base? |
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Dr Fate
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Key board commandos? LOL! And what exactly are you typing on, right now? LOL! |
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Windy
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
27. Excellent commentary. Spot on. |
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Dr Fate
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Yeah- the left sucks dicks. What the DEMS need is a clear-eyed centrist & conservative base. |
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RainDog
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. LOLOLOL |
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RainDog
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. sorry state of the left... |
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AlinPA
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
29. The 'Help' from the Right?" section is excellent. Best description I've seen of them. nt |
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Raster
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. Bold Alert! Bold Alert! |
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tonysam
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. It's kinda hard on the eyes n/t |
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RainDog
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. This man grew up in a religious right cult. His father emboldened anti-choice terrorists |
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QC
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. He still thinks like a fundamentalist. He just reveres a different source of authority now. |
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jonnyblitz
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I read his book and he came off as a flake/airhead to me. PLUS |
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QC
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Do you remember David Horowitz, the nasty right wing asshole of the 90s? |
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RainDog
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. like I said, he should stick to sticking it to his former fuck buddies on the religious right |
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QC
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. He is still looking for heretics, just like he was raised to do. n/t |
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jonnyblitz
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. yup i have known about horowitz since the 90's , i read his book |
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girl gone mad
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
79. You hit the nail on the head. |
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frylock
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
35. knu.. |
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Dr Fate
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. They were Right on the war(s), Right on supporting Bush's economic plans... |
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tridim
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
38. Perfectly stated. I can't wait to see what happens next. |
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NYC_SKP
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Unrecs, really. This thread is top of the list for "on the fence" on the top tens page. |
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Bobbie Jo
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Unrecs? You sound surprised? |
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UTUSN
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
42. K&R #3 n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. Lost me at "easily distracted Left" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Doesn't that sort of demonstrate his point? |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That he wants to slam the left? Yes it does. |
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ClassWarrior
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
82. Irony deficiency? |
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girl gone mad
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
80. Just the opposite. |
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coti
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. Without cost controls or serious regulations, this will be another "I told you so" |
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Zhade
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
67. I am getting SO FUCKING TIRED of being proven correct! |
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bertman
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
56. This easily-distracted Leftist refuses to see the President through the rose-tinted glasses I |
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Aristus
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. Good. My rec put the OP on the plus side. I am, as James Carville says, stickin'. |
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Cowpunk
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
60. Wow, he's managed to insult almost everyone who votes! NT |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
62. "what did we do to help him?" WTF - time, money, phone calls, lobbying, posting, talking, canvassing |
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debbierlus
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
63. If I hear the bullshit arguments about what he inherited and give it more time, one more time... |
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mcablue
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
64. Why is the OP written in all bold letters? |
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Number23
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
69. K&R even though you are KILLING me with the all bold! |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
72. K&R; funny how quickly Frank Schaeffer gets thrown under the bus. n/t |
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RainDog
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:35 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. He was never on the bus n/t |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-22-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Right right. |
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RainDog
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. old news |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Ah so right. |
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Kansas Wyatt
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
91. Prediction... |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
92. Frank, I love the work you're doing -- |
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EFerrari
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Tue Dec-22-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. The Left is not his area and he should stick to what he does so well, imho. |
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