Local marriage expert to visit troops (fundy marriage expert)

[Mari333]

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - With divorce rates rising among service men and women, the military is calling on a Kent County author to help battle marriage problems.








http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/local-marriage-expert-to-visit-troops

I looked this guy up.
http://www.loveandrespect.com/
Promisekeeper, and a fundy. and the military sees no problem in sending him to multiple bases to teach the troops to stay married.

creepy, all the way around.

he and his wifes blog


http://emersonandsarah.blogspot.com/

down the page she talks about submitting to her husband...

[catbyte]

1. Yuck

I caught that dickweed on the early news around 6:45 this morning (WOOD) and he really gave me the creeps. Now I know why. :puke:

Thanks for the research and Happy Holidays!

Diane

Anishnabe in MI

edited for tv station typo--oops!

[Mari333]

2. ever listen to WOOD radio?

I do, and one day when I was driving in the morning, they announced

'LISTEN TO WOOD RADIO IN THE MORNING, WAKE UP WITH WOOD!'

I almost drove off the road laughing.

I dont think they have a clue.

[catbyte]

7. WOOD Radio--Ugh!

I can't stand to listen to it--even the local DJs are RW nutjobs! The hilarious thing about GR radio is that WOOD has a sister station billed as the "talk alternative" to WOOD (WTKG), yet they've dumped Bill Press in the morning for some Catholic holy roller show, and has 3 hours of Glen Beck in the morning and Dennis Miller at night. They DO have Alan Colmes and an hour or so of Ed Schultz. BFD. Talk alternative, my Aunt Fanny!!! :mad:

Diane

Anishnabe in MI

[Mari333]

18. and they have Michael the savage weenie on at night

ah well...its that rural bible belt here in sw mi.
dutch reformed.

[piratefish08]

3. Fundy = Funny!

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

13. kind of

it's all like the movie "Jesus Camp" to me: funny as hell for about five minutes and then really, really frightening.

[krabigirl]

39. Exactly. Not funny at all.

[cbdo2007]

4. What a joke. We should just let all the military marriages fail.

*sarcasm*

[Mari333]

5. No, lets send in counselors from Promisekeepers

to teach the wives how to submit to their husbands.

Thats much better.

How about the military stop sending kids to war after war after war after war 5-6 times? if anything hurts families, THAT does.

[cbdo2007]

6. Promisekeepers teaches that wives should submit to their husbands and that husbands should

submit to their wives. Of course you'll never read that on DU or other anti-Promisekeeper's interwebs sites but still...

[Dogtown]

8. That's all you're about, isn't it?

Bringing the GOOD NEWS to us heathens at DU.

:eyes:

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

11. hilarious

I feel like hugging (from the side, of course, we don't want any sinful Haggard-huggers here!) and talking about my love for a fictional character who supposedly died over 2000 years ago and whose teachings I completely ignore.

[Dogtown]

29. Let's make that a Group Grope:

:grouphug: :patriot:

[cbdo2007]

21. Hey, I'm no Promisekeeper....but at least when I have an argument about something

I actually know what I'm talking about and have researched many religions and religious organizations.

I know it's a losing battle here on DU and that this is really just another, bash Christianity for no logical reason thread where no one here even understands what they're saying, but hey at least I can try to throw my 2 cents in there.

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

23. The Promisekepers are Assclowns

and ANYONE who has read their literature or seen videos of their rallies knows it.

I don't "bash' Christianity, I bash Xtianity: the cheap, idiotic and totally disposable form of nonsense sold on a vast scale for large amounts of money to those desperate enough to fall for the comfort of cliche. It's a sucker's game, and the Promisekeepers are homophobic, right-wing reactionary dipshits.

I know it is a lot more comfortable for you to think that ALL Christians are being "bashed" here -- it allows you to lump your own extremism in with more traditional forms of spiritual quest and feel justified (and martyred...oh, the superiority!) but it is nonsense and idiocy.

[krabigirl]

35. +1

[charlie]

25. Bash Christianity for no logical reason thread?

"There are those who believe in God and those who don't believe in God yet. - Athiesm is a fad"

That was one of your thread titles, Sunshine.

[Tailormyst]

26. Whoa- he actually said that?

What a douche.

[Dogtown]

28. That's what it's worth.

Noted: your only reason to post here.

[krabigirl]

34. I don't bash Christianity..just fundie Christians with false morals. I have no prob with Christ.

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

10. you go, brave promisekeeper!

You hold those man-hands and cry!

:eyes:

[krabigirl]

38. seriously...this is scary stuff

[Mari333]

17. actually, they use Paul as their guide

and the wives submit to husbands as head of the household is their meme.
then, and only after the wife has identified her husband as head of the home, is he supposed to submit to her ideas.

kind of like, nazi lite.
now, if this is how people want to live, let them. no skin off my nose.

but, when my tax dollars are involved, I get involved.

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

24. Exactly: tax dollars are being paid to these charlatans

and it needs to stop.

[krabigirl]

33. Yuck. No one should "submit" to anyone!

[krabigirl]

32. Seriously..of course, these fundies are gung-ho about these war$.

[Tailormyst]

9. Or they could send in real counselors

Instead of assuming everyone is a fundy christian and wants to hear their religious BS.

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

12. Shhhhh!

Someone might get the idea that Xtian "counselors" (marriage, money, The Gay, etc) might be full of shite...and we couldn't have that, now could we?

[cbdo2007]

15. Nobody is stopping them from sending in real counselors. Go ahead....organize

a trip with some counselors to go over there and help...

oh that's right...it's up to THEM to help and YOU to complain about it when they do.

[Tailormyst]

19. You people are unbelievable.

[vadawg]

20. no idea if the couples they are talking to are fundy christians or not

if they are followers of a certain faith then it makes sense to have counselors who share and understand the faith that their marraige is founded on...

[Tailormyst]

27. My question would be, who is paying for it?

[Barack_America]

14. Seriously? Why not try ending stop-loss first, jackasses.

[Mari333]

16. thank you.

[Barack_America]

22. It's remarkable the military doesn't realize the strain THEY are putting on these marriages.

I'd be damned insulted if I were one of these soldiers and the implication were made that my marriage troubles stemmed from a weakened faith in Jesus or somesuch bullshit.

[lies and propaganda]

30. Military Marriages are MADE to fail.

I have the honor of being born into an AF family. When my father retired, they thanked us first for 'giving him to them.' My sister is currently married to a soldier who just got home from his 3rd AF tour, during which she had to have emergency surgery that the red cross had to intervene to get them to let him go to her and their kids.

[krabigirl]

31. Ugh...fundies are the LAST people you want to help you with your marriage!!

Look at all of the scandals they have -- it's because they are so repressed. Hmm, maybe a better idea for these families would be to end these stupid wars?!

[vadawg]

36. not if you are a couple who believe in the same stuff as the fundies,

same as having a jewish counselor for a jewish couple, or a martian counsel a martian couple...

[krabigirl]

37. No thanks. I'm agnostic and I'd be fine with a liberal Christian, Jewish counselor or Buddhist rop

but not a fundie.....they are all about repression and bigotry.

[GreenPartyVoter]

40. Sigh. There weren't any sane secular counselors available?