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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:08 PM
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Doctors No One Needs
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 01:13 PM by HuckleB
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/opinion/23brownlee.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

"FOR anyone who has had to wait a long time to schedule a medical appointment, it might seem as if the world needs more doctors, and that training more of them would be a good idea. An amendment that teaching hospitals are pushing to include in the health care legislation before a final vote is taken in the Senate and the House would do just that. It would add 15,000 medical residency slots to the 100,000 residencies the federal government now finances, most of them through Medicare.

This amendment is being heavily promoted by several doctor specialty societies and the Association of American Medical Colleges, a group that represents the nation’s major teaching hospitals. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. It would raise Medicare’s bill for residencies, which is already $9 billion a year. More important, since the cost of health care follows the supply of doctors, the added slots would substantially increase the national health care bill. And the measure would not address the underlying reason that patients are forced to wait to see doctors.

Over the past 20 years, the number of doctors in relation to the American population has risen by 30 percent. Yet in many parts of the country, more doctors has simply meant more doctors, not better access for patients, not better communication among a patient’s health care providers, and not better results. The truth is that regions with the highest number of doctors per capita tend to deliver lower quality care at a higher cost.

Increasing the number of doctors would make our health care system worse, not better, because the United States doesn’t actually need more doctors. What we do need is for primary care to reclaim its central role in the delivery of medicine, to provide the preventive care, chronic disease management and coordination of services that is lacking in so many parts of the country. Primary care doctors can help patients avoid unnecessary visits to specialists, hospitals and emergency rooms, thus lowering health care costs.

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This piece addresses a point of discussion that has popped up at DU, but from a different angle. I'm still processing my thoughts on this opinion. I definitely agree with the need for a renewed focus on primary care docs. On the other hand, I'd need to see a lot more data in regard to the authors' claim that we don't need any more docs in total.

I hope this spurs some constructive thought.

Cheers!

:hi:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:17 PM
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1. FWIW, my GP's daughter will not be following her dad into
family practice. Her debt for college and medical school is so large she has to become a specialist in order to earn enough to pay them off.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:20 PM
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2. That is one part of the equation, indeed.
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 01:24 PM by HuckleB
Nevermind the reality that most insurance executives spend far less time in training and yet make far more than the best paid specialist MD.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:24 PM
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3. They are trying to restrict their membership?
Are the number of available doctors keeping up with the population?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:25 PM
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4. More nurse paractitioners and physician's assistants would be better. I see three specialists,
always hard to get in to see them--but I can always see the NP and she will see to it that the doctor sees me if necessary.

They give EXCELLENT care and have time to actually listen to me and communicate my issues with the docs. And I get excellent care (if I didn't, I wouldn't be writing this).
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:28 PM
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5. Good point.
And interestingly NPs and some PAs are focused on primary care.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:32 PM
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6. The beauty of it is, I can always see an NP or PA--but if I need to be
seen by my specialists--I'm in; they make time since I've already been seen by the NP. Of course, I have the luxury of semi-adequate health insurance. Not a lot of people can say that, sadly.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:38 PM
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8. BC/BS denied payment for exam in hospital by my specialist''s
PA. I'm dumbfounded.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:28 PM
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10. Ugh.
It seems like they'll try anything to get out of paying.

Sorry to hear that.

Cheers!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:33 PM
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7. I think most people over 65 would benefit from having a nurse practitioner
to serve as an overall health manager.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:02 PM
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9. Agreed, and anyone like me with a chronic condition (in my case, lifetime
insulin dependent diabetes). My most pressing medical need is usually just a small adjusment in my insulin dosing--no need for an endo for that.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:30 PM
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11. I think people with chronic conditions need to be able to establish
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 02:30 PM by hedgehog
a long term working relationship. Everyone has an individual response to medications, and only someone familiar with you will know when to nudge a dosage up or down and be able to trust you when you ask for a medication change.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:13 PM
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12. Interestingly, Obama has already made some moves on this issue.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:38 PM
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13. he's wonderful, isn't he?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:21 PM
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14. Compared to the last individual in the office, yeah.
And I do think he's doing more than Bill Clinton did, or would do.
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