Are The Repugs Going To Take This HCR Bill To The Supreme Court?......

[global1]

Ensign just said something to the effect - "if the Supreme Court upholds this bill" - he's talking about the Supreme Court. Are they going to tie this bill up in the courts? Is this were this is going?

[fascisthunter]

1. probably, so they can cement this as a major precedent

I don't believe the GOP at all....

[lamp_shade]

2. At 2:15 there will be a number of "constitutional point of order" votes. S/B interesting.

[EVDebs]

8. Reconciliation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_%28United_States_Congress%29

"Until 1996, reconciliation was limited to deficit reduction, but in 1996 the Senate's Republican majority adopted a precedent to apply reconciliation to any legislation affecting the budget, even legislation that would increase the deficit.<3>"

The GOP has only itself to blame.

[MiniMe]

3. Sure soundes like it. The latest plan of attack I guess

It is almost funny to hear the republics arguing about upholding the constitution.

[Winterblues]

4. Of course they are.

One thing about Republicans, they don't quit...They know the Extreme Court is heavily on their side of the political divide so of course they will look to them to put the Democrats in their place..

[EVDebs]

NEJM--The Consequences of No. Someone ought to be the adult in the GOP and sit these fools down

and read them the riot act: the economy can't sustain much more of 'the way things are'.

The Consequences of “No”
http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=2360&query=home

They want to destroy America economically. They are worse than Al Qaeda.

[HuckleB]

17. +1

That's a good, thorough, studied piece.

[EVDebs]

18. Thanks !...check this out ...

Obama promised a public option (July 17, 2009)... Sign the petiton at
http://yeswestillcan.org/

also, read

This HCR Bill: 45,000,000 Get CHC-Single-Payer Vermont Health Care
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/22/818060/-This-HCR-Bill:-45,000,000-Get-Single-Payer-Vermont-Health-Care

and check out the table here,

[HuckleB]

19. Thanks.

Cheers!

[blondeatlast]

5. I suggest they take Medicare then as well--that should go over well with the voters.

I'm unhappy with the Dems, but geez looeez, I LOATHE the RREpublicans.

[bdamomma]

6. they would be stupid if they did, they are moving to obstruct the

next bill dealing with Climate Change. what a bunch of wackos!!!

[Ozymanithrax]

7. From what I've read, yes...

They intend to say that the agreement for medicaid is unconstitutional because it doesn't apply to all the states.

We will see hwere it goes.

[WeDidIt]

9. 200 years of deal cutting in Congress says they're wrong n/t

[Ozymanithrax]

15. I agree with that assessment, but the court leans conservative...

It will be interesting what the majority on the court decides to do.

[ThomWV]

10. Certainly.

[old guy]

11. No. I don't think so.

IMO it's just more of the same theater they've been doing all along. If they were really convinced of it, they would have used it as an attack long before now.

[safeinOhio]

12. Could the court strike

just that part of the bill after it passes? That would be a win, win for everyone. Well almost everyone

[Igel]

14. Sure, as long as it's severable.

I.e., it's segmented so you can void one piece without having to void the entire thing.

But it might be a very bad thing. If you void the wrong bit, there goes the much vaunted "reduce deficit from projected deficit" language. Or you may lose price reduction, generality, or something else.

No problem. People are forever challenging the constitutionality of legislation before the SCOTUS. Repub reps have no fewer constitutional rights than left activists. "We the people" is rather inclusive language, and to use it exclusively is twisted.

[DainBramaged]

13. ensign needs to pay attention to the shitstorm headed his way election day

whore-monger.....

[EVDebs]

16. Sign the petition at Yes We Still Can...don't kill the bill...go to conference committee !

http://yeswestillcan.org/