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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:09 PM
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The Doctrine of Manifest Dystopia
It just occurred to me, that this doctrine might be what we're experiencing:

Concentration of wealth
Peasantification of the working class
Erosion of civil liberties
Lies repeated until they become truth
Use of government forces to stifle dissent (Tehran, Philadelphia, Tegucigalpa, Copenhagen)
Loss of representative government
"National interest" has replaced defense as the criterion for war
A population pacified with mindless entertainment and anti-depressants
Consumption = patriotism
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:11 PM
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1. Fascism by any other name...
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:12 PM
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2. k and r
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:12 PM
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3. I like to ponder who or which nation we'll be bombing in 2020...
we should make a game of it. I also like to ponder if we will do whatever it takes to have the baddest military forever... and what will happen if the hoola hoop makes a comeback. I must be bored... maybe.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:16 PM
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6. I'm guessing that we'll still be bombing Afghanistan and
Pakistan.

By then, we'll also be bombing Uzbekistan.

Israel will still be bombing Iran with our tacit approval.

And Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba and Nicaragua may be on the list.

War is good for business.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:24 PM
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10. Madagascar nt
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:13 PM
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4. Yep, that sounds about right.
K&R
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:15 PM
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5. War is peace, ignorance is strength. nt
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:17 PM
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7. Isn't it sad how Orwell's "1984" has been transformed from a...
work of fiction to an instruction manual?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:27 PM
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11. Yep, Goldstein (funny). It's to the letter, when you pay attention. nt
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 07:28 PM by valerief
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:33 PM
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13. Orwell was a visionary. It is truly sad how clearly he knew
what could be coming. :(
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:18 PM
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8. thats the sorry truth Goldstein..some just refuse to see it..but they will
the unfortunate thing is that, until a person is directly affected, they just dont give a crap.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:21 PM
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9. I believe we're all already directly affected
we just differ in our awareness of the fact.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:29 PM
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12. Wow! You nailed it
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:34 PM
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14. How very true.
How very sad. :(
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:57 PM
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15. Not might be, Goldstein...IS
The Dark Ages, as Kurt Vonnegut used to say, never went away.

They just got a larger energy budget. (my addition to Vonnegut's quote)

I'll tell you this, though, something went wrong with the Global Aristocracy's (Bilderbergers, Illuminati, Medeval European Power Structure, call it what you will) and their "system" during the 20th Century.

As in 1776, they had to yield a little to maintain long-term control. But the problem, thanks to advertising, psychology & public relations, is over now.

They just had to invent a new system to overlay the old, and that system is Inverted Totalitarianism (Google it).

It works perfectly, and in the event people start trouble as it bevcomes even MORE obvious, that's what the purposefully-driven-Nazi-style insane 30M Hannidiots, Dittoheads, Savage Weiners and the rest of the Right-Wing Authoritarian Followers are for.

If we resist, they will be unleashed with governmental permission and will happily load the boxcars and staff the camps.

Crazy conspiracy theory? Maybe, we cant know for sure. I would have thought so 10 years ago, but that was before the naked hand of power showed itself to anyone who cared to turn off the TV and look around.

Even if I am wrong, you are most certainly right about the "plan" which comes closer to fruition every day and Obama isn't even slowing it down.

Hell, I don't think he even truly controls the military - he needs a Bushie to be Sec of Def and you know what our "American Kremlinology" studies tell us that means. It makes even more sense in the context of the massive bloodless "forced retirement" Bushie purges from 2003-2005 and probably more we don't know about.

Gosh, I'd love to think that, too, was nuts, but watch and see if an American, not a Bushie, EVER is Sec of Def again.

Kremlinology is what is needed to analyze this country's workings, not the analysis that is applied to Free Nations.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:47 AM
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16. Inverted Totalitarianism
What you write makes sense. One would have to be blind to both history and current events to doubt that potential.

I've always been repulsed by the whole "Homeland" concept.

The Right Wing militia material you mention has all the makings of an America Ton Ton Macoute.

And I wonder if that is what the obsession with minorities and immigrants is all about with the Right Wingers--they aren't likely to see things in the Right way.

Tom Paine would be seeing through all of this. There's a reason he was ejected from the American Pantheon of Founders.

Thanks for the great addition to my post.

Now how do we wake people up, and what do we do when they're awake?

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