5 years from now...

[hyphenate]

Your predictions. On a private level, a national level, or a global level. Hell, you could even go cosmic if you want to.

Elaborate, if you want, on how we will get "there" whereever "there" might be. Just don't write a thesis or novel or something too long to read and enjoy.

[BP2]

1. In five years, if Barack

kills HCR now and starts over to get real HCR, he's a two-termer.

If, however, he lets it slide and signs this gods-awful Senate bill, one does not need to be Carnac the Magnificent to predict the outcome.

[scheming daemons]

3. Killing this bill now is the surest way for Obama to be a one-termer

Dems will get creamed in 2010 if this bill is killed now.


You are sounding more and more like a freeper every post.

[IndianaGreen]

5. It's the other way around. If the Senate bill becomes law

it will lead to an electoral disaster.

[BP2]

8. You sound more and more like someone who

wants to see Barack get creamed if this bill doesn't survive conference.

Considering today's statements by Reps. Louise Slaughter, Barbara Lee and Lynn Woolsey, I am not as confident the bill will make it through conference.

If YOU trust Senators Lincoln, Landrieu, LIEberman and Nelson and that they are incapable of another double-cross, then you cannot be a Progressive - at least one with skeptical mind of people who can't make up their minds as to what party they support.

If you're for a HCR bill that make Big Pharma and Insurance get even bigger, I further question your loyalties - and with good reason!

[scheming daemons]

10. My "loyalties" are with the 100% of Dem Senators that are voting FOR the bill

Your loyalties appear to be with the 100% of GOP Senators that are voting against it.


Name a Democratic Senator voting against it... and you'll have a point.
Name a Republican Senator voting FOR it... and you'll have a point.


As of now... you are aligned 100% with the GOP caucus in the Senate.


100-freaking-percent.

[BP2]

12. Please tell me - I'm dying to know -

What is your personal limit as to how much HCR can be watered down before YOU say, "I no longer support this bill?"

Do you have a limit, or are you so insufferably brainwashed that you cannot think for yourself?

[scheming daemons]

13. If it is better than the current situation, it should pass

Watered down or not... if it is better than the status quo, it should pass.

[BP2]

14. But you didn't answer the question. Do you have

a limit before you say, "No, I can no longer support this bill?"


Here' a couple of realistic scenarios:

Let's say that LIEberman changes his tune and says that, because of his "constituencies" (i.e., Insurance Companies HQ'ed in Connecticut),
he will only support the bill if the portion about Pre-Existing Condition for Children is DELETED from the legislation.

or, let's say that after further budget analysis in Conference, Congress and the CBO determines that the Medicare reforms cost too much money
and the govt can ONLY pick up 10 percent of nation's uninsured. Now, I suppose that's better than the status quo, as you say.
But it also leaves a whopping 90 percent uninsured until this topic is debated again in Congress - sometime perhaps many years from now.


Would you STILL support this bill - or would you support stopping it, re-engaging, and trying to fix
it back in the full Senate before it's signed into law by the President?

[scheming daemons]

2. 5 years from now...

- We'll all be laughing at all the people who believed the Mayan calendar bullshit
- We'll be halfway through Obama's second term
- We'll be 5 years removed from recession, unemployment will be about 6%, and the economy will have been growing for more than 20 straight quarters.
- DUers, despite unprecedented success by this President, will be still bitching and moaning about something he said or did or didn't say or didn't do.

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[lunatica]

4. Five years from now I'll have qualified for Medicare

So fuck everyone else.

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7. Finally,

the world will have viable proof that global warming is a hirrendous threat. But my then, many of the polar bears and other arctic fauna might be on the complete verge of extinction.

The RR will have been sabotaged from inside the cult: several people will finally be able to show real footage that will scare away some of those on the border--progressive Xtians will be able to take back their religion to some degree, and over time, the RR influence will wane over the GOP, who will finally see the RR as a major stumbling block back into power.

Radioactive isotopes will finally be miniature enough to be directed to the part of the human body that there is cancer, and those currently deemed "inoperable" will be able to be treated. This will happen in clinical trials, but it will be a great leap forward for those with cancer.

Also in clinical trials, stem cell research will develop a way for the pancreas of diabetics to grow new insulin cells and help reverse diabetes. It will be developed for Type II diabetics at that time, as they're already doing something with Type I diabetics.

Books will continue to be made, despite e-books becoming more popular. In fact, a study will conclude that people who actually read a solid, paper-filled book, retain more and grow more brain cells from their books.

[BP2]

15. All reasonable predictions

Hope you're wrong about the polar bears and they instead thrive under a UN emergency program to relocate them to the South Pole before they're extinct.

The penguins would not be pleased about their new neighbors, but at least the polar bears would have something to eat.

[hyphenate]

17. Strangely enough,

I thought about that a couple of days ago, and it seemed a viable action. The only problem will be to catch all of those who are alive and get them to cooperate.

There are quite likely enough penguins that are not endangered that would serve as a food base, but over time, it will alter the balance, and that will have to be taken into consideration. Whether we can cool down the Arctic again to get back the ice already lost or not is another matter.

[ZombieHorde]

9. We will be on the brink of loosing the zombie war, cannibalism will be rampant,

and the phrase, "just sayin'" will no longer be trendy.

Utopia.

[dysfunctional press]

11. five years from now...

the republican president will have signed updated healthcare legislation from the republican-controlled congress, stripping the pre-existing condition protections and allowing insurance companies to drop clients when their care gets too expensive. the mandates and even some of the subsidies will remain. (since the subsidies are a direct transfer of public money to a private corporation- they can't be ALL bad.)

[comtec]

16. 5 years from now I'll be 39

Hopefully with the same company, in a healthy relationship with someone and pondering handing over my American passport for the new, shiny EU passport that will allow me to live anywhere in the EU permanently (the current one is temporary, you have to re-up ever 4 years)

I will look at my homeland in fires and ruins and cry.

I truly hope I am wrong (about the US, I need a functional relationship LOL)

I vote blue across the board, but I am loosing faith.

California re-elected arnold with no tricks.
prop 8 was passed with tricks
universal healthcare in california has been smacked down by arnold 3 times!
my homeland is becoming a welfare state where everyone needs it, but it doesn't exist!

We went from number one to number 18in my life time!

Next year I will be looking to get a blue passport.
I will not be returning home.
I have no home now.

Happy holidays

-A patriot in Exlie

[SoCalDem]

18. 12-24-14..n/t

:P