Still like the Public Option?

[WeDidIt]

Fight to get it in the budget for FY '11, which gets passed in '10.

In fact when HCR is signed into law, Medicare for all, Public Option, or yet un-thought of proposals can all be budget items.

Oh, and remember that budget reconciliation thing people wanted to have used to get HCR through, but couldn't be used for non-budgetary things? Yeah, that rule goes into effect on any budgetary item which is what the PO is now.

Don't count the Public Option out yet. In fact, by keeping it out of the final HCR bill, it can become an issue EVERY YEAR.

The fight doesn't end with HCR. It really is just beginning.

[Statistical]

1. Exactly the "exchange system" being put in place "COULD" be a launching point for public option.

The exchange will provide a bunch of insurance options. Adding the public option to that would be trivial. Same system, same subsidies, same rules.

No reason public option couldn't be added to the exchange.

I would like to have seen single payer but the HCR could be used to enable public option in future.

[WeDidIt]

2. Yep, and it's a hammer to beat up on blue dogs and Republicans

EVERY FUCKING YEAR!!!

The progressive movement is being handed the greatest weapon they could ever have!

[abelenkpe]

6. G, I hope you are right.

I suppose it would be kinda difficult to run on the platform of denying health care.

[NJmaverick]

3. Yup on its own the PO is stronger than when it's buried in a large bill

[WeDidIt]

7. And MEdicare Buy-ins are just a jump away from that

Infinitely more doable than via the HCR bill itself because of budget reconciliation.

[BP2]

12. Buried in a large bill - Are you fucking serious?! You're acting like it's

something to be ashamed of.

Sneaking around the night like a filthy rat is no way to hearken in historic reform that helps everyone.

It's certainly not a way to honor Teddy's memory either.

[NJmaverick]

14. Proud Democrats do not sneak around like rats and they certainly don't sound like you

:dem:

[BP2]

15. Proud Democrats do not

"bury" monumental pieces of legislation in unrelated bills like Pukes.

And that's exactly what you proposed!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

4. You're funny.

Keep em coming.

[WeDidIt]

5. Facts are facts

Once HCR is signed, any of these items can be handled via the budget because of the Exchange.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

8. I appreciate it. I needed a good laugh. Feel free to keep going.

[WeDidIt]

9. Wallow in your self pity then

As the rest of the world passes you by.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

10. No self pity here I've got great insurance. Anything is justifiable I guess though, eh?

[Tailormyst]

11. Forgive me if I don't hold my breath

:eyes:

[billyoc]

13. What DCCC/DSCC fundraising email did you get THAT from?

:rofl:

[FLAprogressive]

17. LOL! +1

[daa]

16. This will not get revisited anymore than the patriot act or

the donut hole or drug importation.

The script will like Harkin saying as early as next year we will introduce whatever he cliams he will fix and it will go no where and he will say I tried. Game over.

[Statistical]

18. The donut hole has been revisited in HCR bill.

[daa]

19. 9 years later for 500 out of 4000

and it may not be in the final bill. It will no be revisited NEXT year.

[Edweird]

20. Medicare-for-all can be a budget item without this piece of crap legislation. No Sale.