So when do we invade Yemen?

[bigtree]

Maybe there is some connection between the recent bomber and 'al-Qaeda' in Yemen, as reported. I don't know. Neither do the 'authorities' who are investigating the would-be plane bomber. But we've seen these conflated reports about al-Qaeda links to U.S. bombers before - either opportunistically lined up to make there appear to be an organized plot, or just outright lying to justify military or other actions. All systems are go for Yemen to become the new household face of terror for American fearmongers. We need to be careful about what we accept as truth from our government, military, and media when we endeavor to make similar linkages in our discussions and advocacy. We've definitely been burned badly by these hyped reports of linkages to 'al-Qaeda' before.

[timeforpeace]

1. We already bombed the shit out of them a couple weeks ago. Reprisal?

[kestrel91316]

2. Preferably not before we're al least out of Iran. Maybe even not before we're

out of Afghanistan. Better yet, never.

[polly7]

3. A little O/T, but something I learned the other day.

Hunt Oil, Bush contributor and buddy was the first foreign oil co. into Yemen. So, is Yemen another stratagetic interest being wooed by other internationals? Something else for me to do some reading on. It seems a strange place to suddenly send in unmanned drones and kill civilians with little or no regret or apology, imo. Another pretense Al Quaeda where is in the process of turning Yemen into a stronghold so that children and women can be wiped out without recourse in the never-ending war on terra?

[Way2go]

4. Besides, aren't they harboring OBL? Or, might be? nt

[ProSense]

5. Could have something to do with

Guantanamo: 6 Detainees Are Returned to Yemen

[lib2DaBone]

6. Iran/Pakistan #1 Priority........ Afghanistan..not important....

Whatever Israel wants... just do it..... no matter what it costs.....

[kirby]

7. Amsterdam harbored him n/t

[Turbineguy]

20. That must be scary for the Dutch

at least during the Bush administration they could be sure we'd invade Lichtenstein or something.

[Don Caballero]

8. We must kill terrorists wherever they are

Borders should not be an issue when killing suspected extremists all over the world. I am so happy President Obama is continuing with searching and liquidating the bad guys everywhere.

[Individualist]

9. Rahm, is that you?

[StarfarerBill]

11. You bet; have to make room for the even greater number we create.

:eyes:

[Don Caballero]

12. Has that ever been determined to be true?

I have never seen conclusive evidence of that theory.

[StarfarerBill]

19. Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and other groups keep going; they aren't springing up from out of the ground.

The resentment and anger caused by the West's murder of civilians through invasion and occupation as well as our longstanding support of brutal, impoverishing regimes are among the best, if not the best, recruiting tools these groups have.

So yes, we are creating more terrorists.

[madrchsod]

23. this has been well known through out history...

but every commander thinks he`ll be the first to prove history wrong.

[timeforpeace]

30. LOL. Of course it's not true. It's looney. But it worked well against Bush.

[leftstreet]

13. LOL

:rofl:

[Mz Pip]

15. 15 of the 19

9/11 hijackers were Saudis. We didn't do squat with that country. Bet there are still a few terrorists there, too.

Bombing the country of origin of a terrorist won't accomplish much. Their allegience isn't to their country; it's to their cause.

[Forkboy]

27. Welcome back, Simply.

[jonnyblitz]

35. !!

:o

[wuushew]

29. Whaaaaaa?

[krabigirl]

32. yeah, he's doing a great job of shaking the hornet's nest. lmao

[ThomThom]

40. We also must be a system of laws.

when we forget that we lose the intellectual high ground
we must not be dragged down

[Motown_Johnny]

10. how much oil do they have?

[madrchsod]

18. they have more natural gas than oil

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. We already did

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. As long as there are Islamic schools putting out a-holes that do these kinds of things....

We will have to go after them and those schools.

[madrchsod]

17. we already have....

we will sacrifice our blood and money for oil and natural gas and there`s not one fucking thing we can do about it.

[gulliver]

21. The President has to sit down for 7 minutes and make faces.

Once that is done, he can figure out if Yemen really had anything to do with the incident. If not, then we attack.

Oh wait. Dem President now. Scratch that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. Whenever the bosses at the Pentagon tell Obama that he should. See Afghanistan for precedent.

[Initech]

24. 3... 2... 1...

:nuke:

[treestar]

25. If we lived in the McCain administration

It would not be long.

Seriously, Yemen is an ally. They are trying to avoid terrorism, not enabling it like the Taliban did.

[timeforpeace]

31. ...we would be bombing them and they would be trying to bomb our airliners...Hey, wait a minute!

[HipChick]

26. reports said his father was married to a woman from Yemen..why would he not visit there

[bridgit]

28. Oh, it shouldn't need to come to that, maybe just the parts that destabilize

The Gulf of Aden & the Red Sea and all the commerce that flows through them in both directions - note that in spite of their qualms about regional entanglements they're weary of having their oil hijacked by regional warlords, gangs and pirates; the Saudis have had some skin in the game for a while so it's not just us

http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/fullNews.php?headline=Saudis+bomb+Yemen+rebels+across+border&NewsID=44865
are a

[bigtree]

33. that would follow

. . . a long history of our military defending Saudi interests, most notably with our initial Iraq bombing campaign to advantage Kuwait and our haranguing of Iran.

[bridgit]

36. Sure, and that all ties in with the geopolitical borders laid down by T.E. Lawrence

on behalf of the British Crown - or BP if you prefer - without even going into the agreement with the Saudi' for them to deposit, at the time, all their petro proceeds into American & European financial institutions as earnest money, if you will, in the development of their soon to be vital resource and of course making them obscenely wealthy in the process down to the last prince and pricness...they still do, whether they are called euros or dollars they still do

That part of the world is so heavily leveraged that focusing on the woes Yemeni pirates and al-Q have befell upon themselves, by way of Iran's support of Shia agitation in and around Yemen, sadly, only picks at the surface. I'm not saying that it's right

I'm saying that the parameters of the topic are way bigger than a bread basket http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/11/2009111675649700628.html

The turning is near, it would seem, to when people will be suggesting: that to be fed up with outside support for destabilizing drug & warlords, roaming gangs & pirates is an unjustified position to maintain - and that the acceptable course for Yemen is to do nothing but submit to the whims of chaos

[tabasco]

34. Just as soon as the motherfuckers set up training camps

with no government interference. You know, like the fuckers in Afghanistan who were responsible for the attack on NYC.

Seems pretty easy to me.

[bigtree]

37. those 9-11 fuckers

. . . actually 'trained' to fly planes in the U.S.. I really don't know what they learned on the jungle gyms and tire obstacles we saw in the Afghanistan al-Qaeda training videos.

[mmonk]

38. They are already in the American fold of the empire project.

Therefore, no need for invasion.

[UTUSN]

39. First things FIRST: The underwear has to come OFF at the airports!1 n/t