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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:50 AM
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Mary Matalin just said Bush "inherited" the worst terrorist attack ever
On CNN. And neither Carville nor John King said WTF????????
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:52 AM
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1. they need to replay Condi Rice admitting they were warned
but how soon they forget, or ignore that.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:06 AM
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54. The Republicon chickenhawks were warned over 60 times before 9/11
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 07:08 AM by SpiralHawk
They ignored every freaking warning. And Commander AWOL Bush went on vacation, and stayed on vacation for weeks and weeks, totally IGNORING the over 60 warnings.

The Republicon chickenhawks LET America be attacked on 9/11.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:03 PM
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2. HORRIBLE!
:mad:
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:06 PM
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3. More like Bush incited the worst terror attack. n/t
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:07 PM
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4. Revisionist History
Well what do you expect from someone trying to run from their record?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:09 PM
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5. One could argue she is right on that:
Lagging indicators as folks call em. Obama inherited the economic crisis and it will take time to turn it, bush had less than 9 months to absorb all the issues relating to the military.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:11 PM
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7. HUH????
Terrorism has been around for centuries and Bush had plenty of warning. He chose to ignore it and do nothing. That is his fault and the attacks came on his watch with plenty of chances to do something. The arguement is fool's gold.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:20 PM
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9. let me try to explain it this way:
Things take time to work when leadership changes. The terror attacks were planned long before bush came into office, just like the issues with the economy was in free fall before Obama came in.

All of the sudden you have all new people in power trying to absorb all the previous 8 years, get access to intelligence they were not privy to before, work with business leaders or military leaders, etc and so on.

I have heard it said time and again here that the economy isn't Obama's fault at this point, but the direction it is heading is (It takes time for the direction he pointed things to show up). bush had a whole world of military intellegence, etc, to have his people sift through.

Did he miss the signs? Yes, but the problem existed before he came into office (the hatred of the US, planned attacks, etc) so in that sense he did inherit terrorism and 9/11 from previous admins (No way in 8 months any pres could have changed all that, and no way Obama could have turned around an already falling economy by now either - he inherited that mess).

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:22 PM
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11. oh please.
:evilfrown:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:34 PM
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15. " the economy was in free fall before Obama came in"
And if the administration had done nothing about the economic crisis it inherited and then if subsequently an actual financial collapse of great depression magnitude had occurred, the protestation that 'we inherited this mess' would be ridiculously irrelevant.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:46 PM
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16. The Bush administration was warned and briefed by the Clinton administration
about the threat of terrorism in general and al Quaeda in particular. The Bush administration chose to spend more time and effort on getting tax cuts for the rich than on national security.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/20/us/clinton-aides-plan-to-tell-panel-of-warning-bush-team-on-qaeda.html?pagewanted=1

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:16 PM
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27. If I recall, Bush specifically said he didn't want all those briefings either.
He would handle it "his way" and boy did he ever.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:47 PM
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17. That's one of the best defenses of Bush I've read
but I don't believe a word of it.

LIHOP.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:52 PM
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20. Wow.
That's some story. :crazy:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:00 PM
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21. Read more details on the 8/6/2001 Presidential daily briefing
and decide for yourself whether there was some dereliction of duty on his part.
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quabbin Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:05 PM
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23. The Signs
Bush did not miss the signs. He chose to ignore the very ominous warning he received in the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing. At the very end of the document the FBI indicated they had detected what appeared to be preparations for hijackings. He did nothing with that knowledge. Contrary to what Rice said when she testified before Congress, that was a very specific warning. If they had gone public with that intelligence, the American flying public would have traveled with a heightened sense of awareness about suspicious passengers. I have always suspected Bush and his team didn't share this warning with the flying public because they were afraid of a negative impact on the airline industry. With him it was always about putting the interests of business before the public good.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 04:35 PM
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42. That's crazy.
Why?

Because the warnings were specific enough as to who, but not where, when, or how. So security could have been increased. For how long? Well, until it was proven that there were no more attacks planned. What's that? 1 year? 2? 10?

Think about what that PDB could mean. It could mean an attack on an oil refinery, hijacking planes, it could mean running 5 tanker trailers full of gasoline into Federal Buildings or blowing up bridges. It could mean poisoning water purification facilities, it could mean sabotaging shipping. It could be radiologic, bateriological, explosive, or even a cyberattack. Where do you defend? All of them!

Now, you're sitting there on 9/1/01 reading about the new regulations: Increased searches, a new terrorism database set up, increased screenings and wiretaps and enforcement and monitoring. Internet safeguards, militia guarding water treatment plants, inspectors on boats and in airports. The US is militarized--low-level militarization, but militarization.

Why? Because of a PDB that says that a group you've never heard of is planning an attack. All you see is a RW government head by the person who stole the '00 elections cinching down on travel, communications, etc., etc., in what might be potentially the biggest power grab ever. And he's doing it less than 9 months after taking office.

Much of the American media had great reservations over many of these procedures and regulations 6 months *after* 9/11. How'd you think it would go over in the absence of a 9/11? If * got up and claimed by the curtailment of civil liberties saved 3000 lives would the NYT have cheered him on? How about DUers?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 04:56 PM
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43. The PDB wasn't the only intelligence they had.
It's only a summary. The point is that Bush brushed it off, he didn't ask for any more information.
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quabbin Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:44 AM
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47. Crazy? You've got to be kidding.
You really need to learn more about what happened on that fateful day of 9/11/01. Did you ever see the interview conducted with the ticket agent in Portland, ME that checked Mohamed Atta and company through onto their connecting flight to Boston? The guy was in tears as he told of how Atta really aroused his suspicions but he didn't raise the red flag. He said he will carry the regret of not acting on his suspicions about Atta to his grave. That ticket agent may have acted differently if he knew of the threat outlined in the Aug 6th 2001 PDB. The information was not shared with the folks in the field that could have made a difference that day. Your efforts to provide cover for Bush are dubious at best. The pattern of utter incompetence was repeated later with hurricane Katrina.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:24 PM
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29. give me a break
What a load of crap!!! This is pure garbage and you could be sold a swamp in a desert.
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quabbin Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:51 PM
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31. You don't deserve a break
Pretty moronic response to my post. Read the Aug. 6th 2001 PDB. It has been public information since 2004. Try as you might you can't revise history. And you can't undo the tragic impact caused by the bumbling fool's inaction after he was given that stark warning. Your ignorance is showing.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:53 PM
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33. Actually you just reamed him for no reason :)
He wasn't answering you, his answer to another poster just happened to appear above yours.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:54 PM
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35. Um...the poster above is replying to post #9 not your post!
(But I agree with your sentiment).
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:45 PM
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30. Wait.... what? Bush wasn't given a brand new country to run?
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:52 PM
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32. You need to do a little research
Have you forgotten about all the people that were warned not fly before 9-11-01?

Here, let me help you: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/06/03/hsorensen.DTL
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:54 PM
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34. OH Pulease who are you working for?
Condi said they were warned, shit I knew it since I had heard about it several times BEFORE the idiot was allowed to soil the sheets in the White House.

They also published the PNAC manifesto and it clearly stated that they needed a 'Pearl Harbor Event' to put the kind of policies they wanted in place which they did can you say Patriot Act?

The Clinton admin met with the amBush boys henchmen and that was one of the first foremost warnings.

Why did Dick Cheney have the Air Forces stand down on 911, if they did have any direct involvement they let it happen period.

The WTC had been attacked in 1993, the cia had good intell that it would be attacked and Bin Ladin denied any involvement and he has been dead since Dec 01 wtf are we still 'looking' for him?

Our government has gotten totally out of our hands and into the hands of people /corpses who care nothing for nothing but profit.

Obama lost me when he voted to cover up for the communications corpses on the FISA vote.

I realise he is better than mcfailin by far, but that still does not make him good.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:15 PM
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38. Bush's people didn't know how to "sift through" military intelligence
Nor did they need to. The function of an intelligence organization is to provide finished, actionable knowledge to a consumer--and Bush was the most important intelligence consumer in August 2001. It is the function of a consumer to make good decisions based on that information. Bush received good solid information on 8/6/2001--and did absolutely nothing.

I could give hundreds of examples of consumers farting off information they receive. Let's start with Pearl Harbor. On the morning of December 7. 1941, the crew of an AN/SCR-270 radar system observed approximately seventy target returns on their display. They called it in and were ignored: "Oh, it's just some B-17s that are supposed to be arriving," the command post said. Result of that misjudgment?

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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:16 PM
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39. Oh, sweet Jesus...
You're not telling me that with a straight face, are you? Dick Cheney is a former SecDef. Bush's Daddy is a former POTUS, VPOTUS, Director of Central Intelligence, etc. And they had no clue who this nation's enemies were? Even without a single briefing(They were given countless briefings) from any former Adm. official, I think they knew plenty what to watch out for and chose not to.......ON PURPOSE! Please back away from your keyboard slowly and carefully, so you don't hurt yourself.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:09 AM
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46. There is a reason they planned this shortly after a changeover in our government
Oh, no, I'm not making excuses for Bushco - they were in office when they were hit and a real leader takes full ownership of what happens under his watch. But, it is true that the time when new government officials are coming up to speed IS a more vulnerable time security-wise - especially in the days when we were still naive about how determined these mofos were to destroy the USA. This isn't a Democratic or Republican issue, it's basic nuts and bolts.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:32 AM
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49. I couldn't disagree more.
eom
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:41 AM
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50. But it is well documented that the Clinton administration emphasized the need for vigilance with Al
Qaeda. Bush' administration annual report on global terror assessment made no mention of Bin Laden or Al Qaeda. When asked about the omission by the press their response was that they felt the Clinton administration's focus on Al Qaeda was disproportionate.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:47 AM
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51. There is little proof of this attack was planned out years....
Osama didn't even hate us until HWBush choose to invade Iraq which led to th posting of infidel troops in the Muslim Holy land of Saudi Arabia...

So one could actually say the plot was hatched during the original Bush.

And i didn't hear Clinton's people whining about an inherited attack when the truck full of explosives went off in the WT center during the Clinton Administration....
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:39 AM
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53. When Clinton attempted to kill Osama, didn't republicans scream WAG THE DOG.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:09 PM
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6. The botox has reached that girl's brain....n/t
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:18 PM
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8. Is CNN still on the air? Who knew?? eom
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:21 PM
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10. I guess I haven't had enough caffeine this morning--huhhhhh?
I am pretty sure that September 11,2001, occurred some 9 months into the bush administration, yes?

why is this clueless cretin given air time?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:23 PM
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12. And the polishing of the bush presidency turd continues with another rewrite of history.
It never ends.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:25 PM
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13. She's another one that needs to be tried for war crimes. Between WHIG
and the Principals Committee, aka, Team Torture, that woman is no less guilty than Bush /Cheney.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:25 PM
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14. Yes, he inherited it from his own negligence and stupidity.
Bush did not hold a single anti-terror meeting before 9-11 and ignored reports "Bin Laden Determined To Strike Inside US."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:50 PM
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18. Media whores at their finest.
:nuke:
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:52 PM
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19. Oh, really? Did she come up for air just to make this statement?
I'd hate to interrupt her record for giving the longest blow job ever to Dick Cheney.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:00 PM
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22. Whatever they're pumping into her wrinkles must be going to her brain.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:06 PM
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24. What an idiot!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:07 PM
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25. Richard Clark already put this to rest.
The Bush administration was warned countless times about 9/11. There were meetings, committees PDB's. THe reason 9/11 happened is because the Republicans in their incredibly insane zeal to demonize anything any Democrat says or does purposefully ignored everything the Clinton administration handed them and told them. As a matter of fact I seem to remember them laughing about it and actually claiming their policy was to ignore everything those stupid Democrats did and said while they held office.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:14 PM
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26. She makes my hair hurt & John King should be a weatherman
You can't inherit an attack. She could say he inherited the problem of world terrorism and it's potential for domestic attacks if she used her brain for something besides keeping her face from collapsing.

So, as he did with all his other inheritances, Georgie blew it! Spent it on a wild tax-cut party, 6 months vacation out of 9 months in office and gutting Clinton's environmental legislation. Why do terrorism homework when you can party wicha frat brothers?

I'm going to write to the Weather Channel and ask that they begin political analysis. It couldn't be worse, right?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:17 PM
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28. How do you "inherit" an attack?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:02 PM
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36. Mary Matalin should be on the jewelry channel
Instead doing corporate infomercials.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:29 AM
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48. I wouldn't buy that from her either :)
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:10 PM
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37. She is a raging lunatic...
...a frothing-at-the-mouth, rabid rightwing lying beeyatch who lies as easy as she breathes.

Of course Carville has been neutered politically by being married to her, which is too bad, but there it is.

Shame on both of them for letting her spew without being challenged.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:18 PM
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40. Carville gets no nookie tonight if he embarasses her this morning
Strange strange relationship.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 09:48 PM
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44. Damn it---stop that! The visuals are both frightening and disgusting! nt
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:18 PM
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41. Scubbing the Shrub's record - just like the Cheneys claim that Bush
kept "America safe for 8 years." Except they forget to mention that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch and he was warned.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:59 PM
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45. totally.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:43 AM
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52. If her mouth was moving, she was lying. nt
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