CNN Breaking - annother issue w/ Detroit-bound jet from Amsterdam...

[Dennis Donovan]

Unruly passenger causing issue.

Police & Fire crews surrounding airliner.

Same flight number/airline as the incident on Xmas.

[Tejas]

1. Flat tire?

3 tons of heroin in the cargo bay?

[Loge23]

2. Did someone stand up during the last 1/2 hour?? (eom)

[Dennis Donovan]

4. When ya gotta go...

;)

[seabeyond]

9. lol. nt

[monmouth]

15. Where's Ivana Trump????n/t

[SoCalDem]

3. CNN went full circle here.. broke into a commercial with it, and then

broke into the breaking news so we could hear Marilyn tell us about Billy again,..& share her recipes with us..and another lame commercial :rofl:

oops now they're back, but Fredrika can't figure out who's on the phone with her :)

but hey.. MSNBC is probably still showing their blood,guts, gore & prison shit

[Born_A_Truman]

6. Was it Ivana?

[Dennis Donovan]

7. Sounds like Peter Buck's flying in...

:spank:

[enigmatic]

12. LOL

;-)

[Rhiannon12866]

31. Why? Did they need sandwiches?

:evilgrin:

[Dennis Donovan]

32. I don't get it...

:shrug:

(Peter Buck is the guitarist for R.E.M. - he was in trouble a few years ago because he misbehaved on a transatlantic flight).

[Rhiannon12866]

33. I know that, but Peter Buck is also the co-founder of Subway... :D

Which was originally called "Pete's Super Submarines." I was thinking that a few sandwiches would have been welcome. :9

[xultar]

8. I love that prison shit on MSNBC. That prison shit is docudrama at its best.

[SoCalDem]

11. There's a closed circuit live feed to a jail/sheriff's office that I used to love to watch

especially on Friday nights... It even had a live chat.. I think they finally shut it down.. I think it was for a little place in N Carolina..

[treestar]

5. Maybe someone freaked out by being on the same flight

Weird.

Looks like Amsterdam is not the place to leave for Detroit from!

[Dennis Donovan]

10. Dutch Ganga...

...makes one more paranoid?:D

[alfredo]

14. Being a former Detroiter, I would have stayed in Amsterdam.

Detroit was a cool place before cocaine. Long live Boones farm Commune, King George and Iris, Cobb's Corner, The Shady Lady of Kennedy Sq, Becky (Maggie Mae) Jackson RIP, The fifth Estate, The SMC, SDS, White and Black Panthers, Bakers, Monroe St, Grande Ballroom, the MC5, and the gang in the Cass Corridor!!

[murray hill farm]

21. Also...

Detroit has Vernor's Ginger ale! Soooooooo good!

[alfredo]

29. I lived behind them for a spell. Until I quit drinking soda,

Vernor's was my main drink. One place I lived had a nice view of the Stroh's sign.

[Bozita]

13. WDIV reporting the unruly passenger is ... Nigerian

www.wdiv.com

[havocmom]

16. Does airport secruity in Amsterdam need coffee?

If there are terrorists testing for weak spots, this might indicate a problem in that airport?

[snagglepuss]

19. People taking connecting flights don't go through rigorous screening.

Its sounds like that has got to change.

[timeforpeace]

22. Sounds like you've pointed out the flaw all right.

[frazzled]

25. My experience at Schiphol is that you go through security at your boarding gate

It's been 2 years since I last flew from Schiphol ... but that's how it worked then, which means you have to go through security again even when you are on a connecting flight.

That means the lines are horrible: everyone for a big international flight is there at once, and once you get through, you're stuck at the gate (forget that coffee, newspaper, or ... the bathroom, unless you want to wait another half hour in the line all over again).

[snagglepuss]

26. A spokeswoman for either Schinpol or the dutch govt was quoted

as saying that transferring passengers do not face the same scrutiny as others and that there was only so much that can be done. I read it in a UK newspaper and it jumped out. Perhaps she has no clue as to procedures but she stated that the bomber wouldn't have gone thru a rigorous check.

[frazzled]

27. KLM says differently

At Schiphol, all passengers, including transfer passengers, will be subjected to an extensive security check at the gate (previously, this security check was only done immediately after the passport control). Consequently, to avoid delays, you are requested to be at the gate on time:

For flights in Europe: 30 minutes prior to departure
For intercontinental flights: 60 minutes prior to departure

http://extra.klmtransfer.schiphol.nl/web/show/id=156607/langid=42

So there is no difference between whether you are a passenger on a connecting flight or whether you originate your trip at Schiphol. Perhaps she meant this guy was continuing on a flight that merely stopped at Schiphol? In that case, he probably only would have been checked on boarding at the airport in, what was it, Lagos? I hear they only had a broken down xray machine there.

My recollection at Amsterdam is that you first have to go to the gate and be interviewed, and then you pass through xray, metal detection, etc. This all occurs at the specific gate for your flight. And they aren't kidding about being at the gate (not the airport, but the gate) at least 1 hour before flight departure. It will take that long.

Also, read this account from an American who was on the flight (he originated in Uganda):

At 6 a.m. CET, I had arrived in Amsterdam. It's a beautiful airport, just as you would imagine the Dutch would design it, boxy and metallic architecture, silver roofs and granite floors with bright yellow signs marking the terminals extending from central hubs in every direction. Orderly and calm, the opposite of my chaotic life in Uganda. At Amsterdam we went through security, and what seemed like the time was good security. At the gate everyone was interviewed by a team of around 10 personal screeners, who asked us a battery of questions in quick succession. This was something I had only experienced at Tel-Aviv airports and it came as quite a surprise, but one that I welcomed. After personal screening we passed through metal detectors and a baggage X-ray. Even though I had all the change out of my pockets, cell phones, and belt removed I still set off the detector (perhaps the rivets in my jeans). As soon as that happened I was frisked so thoroughly by the young Dutch security guard that I began to wonder if he was enjoying himself. Later on when I read the news reports I realized that if Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab had the explosives stashed in his underwear, even if he had been thoroughly frisked the only way the guard would have noticed anything is if he literally put his hands down the guys pants, and searched his groin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roey-rosenblith/over-detroit-skies_b_404255.html

[snagglepuss]

28. I am aware of those because I was looking for what I had read.

Like I said perhaps she absolutely had no clue what goes on at the airport but she stated in no uncertain terms that a search for transferring passengers is not as rigorous. Are people now trying to backpeddle? I don't know. But the guy got through so the check was less than adequate. Furthermore the security check didn't catch the fact he didn't have luggage other than a carryon which should have raised alarms given that he was planning a 2 week stay in the US.

[Vinca]

17. How long till they land? Maybe he has to pee.

[snagglepuss]

20. LOL nt

[LovinLife]

18. I think they said it's the same flight number as well. NT

[Contrary1]

23. " Disruptive passenger on board today’s flight may have had stomach problems, officials tell NBC"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[timeforpeace]

24. "The passenger spent about an hour in the bathroom and got upset when he was questioned by the crew"

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/27/michigan.airplane.disruption/

[Fearless]

30. Person was sick... not a story. Move on.

This sort of stuff will fuel the fire that's brewing over intervention in Yemen.