When they came for my blanket and pillow,I still sat down...but in-flight entertainment too?

[HipChick]

http://www.gadling.com/2009/12/27/tsa-security-update-no-inflight-entertainment-books-ok/

so will it boil down to:
On random flights domestic, and but mostly international (inbound)

Planes with in-flight entertainment and in-flight plane positioning mapping terminated until the two can work independently. (which some do not)so on a long flight does that mean no entertainment.

No more announcements on when the plane will land.

Nothing will be said of the PA system to give idea of location of plane.

For those who fly United, Ch. 9 will be discontinued 100%

Possible no liquids from Duty Free is allowed on the plane coming into the USA (isn't that why we shop duty free?)

Nothing can be sitting on your lap during the last remaining hour of the flight or longer.

[NYC_SKP]

1. JetBlue is the only carrier I've flown with on-screen flight tracking. nt

[HipChick]

2. ..Virgin have it..

[NYC_SKP]

3. Odd rule. If a terrorist wants to detonate near destination, why not just go by time elapsed?

It's not like those on screen trackers are highly detailed or something...

:shrug:

[HipChick]

4. I don't get it either..

[FBaggins]

29. Then no watches allowed either.

Or any other electronics.

And lights will be turned on/off at irregular intervals to mess with your sense of time. The plane will change altitude several times throughout the flight so that you can't tell which one is the landing.

Of course all windows will remain closed. Future aircraft models will be designed without them.

I suppose they could also catheterize each passenger and make lap-belt releases a centralized function. You can't leave your seat if you wanted to.

[no limit]

33. You're expecting the TSA to think rationally? These people released their secret screen procedures

on the freaking internet for everyone to see.

[kiva]

16. Frontier also. n/t

[donco6]

17. Frontier has it. n/t

[Old and In the Way]

5. you know, if I'm Al Qaeda, I'm going to keep doing small time shit

with a bunch of kooks. Given our politically-induced over-reactions, I'm pretty sure they'll end up killing the airline industry.....and there may never be a fatality involved. Wait until there's a bathroom incident...there go the lavs! No food, no water, no pee, no 'puters, no talking - I think I'll start investing in bus/train stocks.


When did we turn into such a bunch of wimps? I've flown a lot over the past decades, but not so much anymore. I prefer car, bus, train for any LD traveling because it's become too aggravating dealing with TSA, crappy airline service, cancellations, etc. It's like they really want to kill airline travel. I've always accepted the threat of terror attack akin to the chances of catastrophic systems failure to the aircraft....infinitesimal, but always a possibility. <I was on FLt 175 two weeks before 9/11> I think we long ago reached the Pareto's Point in airline security...we've added a structure that can reasonably assure a low probability of terrorist attack. To try to reduce the chances further will unacceptably increase the costs and inconvenience while further eroding our constitutional rights(warrentless searches, privacy, etc.)

[PDJane]

7. Air flight is going to be solely for the rich,

and that way they can enjoy all the luxuries without rubbing elbows with the hoi polloi.

The terrorist threat is not going away, because the stuff the government is doing is simply going to make terrorist attacks more likely. But if you can scare enough people into not flying, jet travel becomes a private luxury.

[valerief]

30. That would make sense, except rich people want to buy their own jets.

And airlines don't want to give the Disneyworld/Vegas revenue from the hoi polloi.

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. That's eactly it - the terrorists won on 9-11: we're doing everything they want us to do.

Run around scared doing random useless shit, making OUR OWN lives more miserable, more inconvenient, and less free.

They don't have to blow anything up any more - as you say, as long as they do minor silly things once a year or so, on one flight out of 100 million, we'll keep bankrupting ourselves with war, taking away our own liberties, and putting the country into a downward spiral of paranoia and economic destruction.

[valerief]

6. You can't read a book???? nt

[enlightenment]

8. I love to read, but even I have a tough time doing it for

hours at a stretch. A nine-hour plus flight (my home to London) gets pretty damned dull, even with a nap (hard to do in steerage, as the seats are a cramped misery and the noise level pretty intense, particularly when children are aboard), a book or two, a puzzle book, and whatever other small amusements I can carry.

[valerief]

25. I just got unlazy and clicked the link. I see books are okay during the last hour.

This confused me:

Nothing can be sitting on your lap during the last remaining hour of the flight or longer.

[enlightenment]

26. Oops. Sorry. Misread your post . . .

My bad. :(
I don't think they're banning books, but I don't know for sure.

[valerief]

27. Ha!!! I just changed my post!!! I just checked the link. Books are okay. Whew! nt

[havocmom]

19. Until some idiot tries to burn one onboard

Next up, fundy with a rage about Harry Potter, arrested in attempted book burning on Delta flight......

Oh, I can see it. Nut pulling dumb stunt and books are on the list of things you can't have on a plane.

Heavens, people might be reduced to actually having to try to converse with strangers to wile away the hours ;)

[valerief]

28. That works, too! nt

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

9. what about windows?

I bet most children in Mongolia could identify the NYC skyline,

[tomg]

11. I have an idea.

While most of us can just stay in our houses, hide under our covers, and scream every time we hear a plane fly overhead, if we have to fly, we can fly stark naked, with bags over our heads, and chained to our seats.

[havocmom]

20. Care to invest in my latest venture, Fly Naked Airlines?

At Fly Naked, we will provide free drinking water. Limited range of other beverages will be available at just 2% over actual cost. Seat cushions will be soft, absorbent, and most importantly: disposable.

In the unlikely event of a water landing, seat cushions will NOT serve as flotation devices, but with everyone naked, it should be easy to find those of us with higher fat content. We float, and could probably help our skinny travel buddies avoid drowning. This may have the added benefit of raising consciousness about the fact that fat people have merit too. It may help dis-spell the cultural mindset that skeletal is enviable that is perpetuated by mass marketing, and save many from self-loathing due to unrealistic expectations conflicting with the fact of nature and genetic body-types. And sales of Danish Waffles might go up too.

In-flight entertainment may include flight attendants doing magic tricks and making ill-behaved children, drunk, obnoxious dowagers, lechers, and those with gas disappear into a sound-proof container for the duration of the flight.* (*not available on all flights because every now and then we get lucky and have only sane, good-natured passengers who are not given to bouts of drunkenness or neglect of child-rearing responsibilities.)

Foreign languages will be appreciated rather than irrationally feared, but the first person who says "DUUUUDE!" can be voted off the plane and dropped into a pressure-lock chute installed for that purpose.

The doors to the flight deck will be sealed shut. There will be a camera on both pilot and copilot so passengers might notice if they are too busy playing computer games to notice they are coming up on their destination. Special microphones will be installed to enable flight attendants to holler at any flight deck personnel seeming to be asleep or otherwise not paying attention. Many passengers will find it entertaining to monitor flight deck action and report any sighting of video games or YouTube watching to the attendants, all of whom will have masters of psychology degrees (and tranquilizer darts in the event of hyper-vigilant passengers given to needless panic.)



HEELP! Won't somebody stop me before this becomes a friggen business plan?

[tomg]

23. The magic tricks sold me. I'm in. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Just flew yesterday and had my coat on my lap the entire time

Nothing happened. Hmm.

[HipChick]

13. domestic or international? mostly affects international inbound into US

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Domestic

Which is interesting. I guess terrorists only threaten international flights?

We forget that the planes on 911 were domestic flights.

[HipChick]

15. well we know the TSA is so good at their job, nothing like that will get through

:sarcasm:

[marshall]

21. The Christmas day bozo would probably not have gotten on a domestic flight

Without a passport he wouldn't even have made it past customs.

[HipChick]

34. If you believe that story, I got a bridge to sell you..

[marshall]

35. It's easier to swallow than an elaborate conspiracy theory

Conspiracy theories are fun and make good movies, though.

[Bluebear]

24. toldya you shouldn't notice any difference domestically :)

[donco6]

18. Yeah, we couldn't buy any booze leaving Mexico the other day.

Although our Canadian friends were stocking up right next to us.

[jberryhill]

32. That sucks

That tequila with the cactus sculpture inside the bottle, that they have at all the shops in the MX city airport is SMOOTH as all get out.

[madokie]

22. I remember taking four 24 hour plane rides where the only entertainment was someone farting

or just being silly some other way. course I was on flying tigers airlines old wore out dc8's on my way to and from Vietnam.
My last commercial flight I was on was coming home that last time. I like small planes though and go up whenever I get a chance.

on one trip the pilot told us we topped out at 63,500 ft. Damn near see the curvature of the earth from there, not sure we couldn't.

I was going to google what the normal heights for commercial flights were but then it hit me I better not ask google anything of the sorts.:scared:

[bullwinkle428]

31. When do they start taking away our watches?