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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:08 PM
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There's really no Left left in Government or American society
Sometimes I get sick of all the "ohh that liberal/leftist/socialist senator from such and such state" crap. In the senate there is not one leftist senator out of all 100. It's a very conservative racket there. In the House there's only one rep (Kucinich) in the whole damn thing.

This country has become an extremely hardcore rightist country where everything that's not Republican is considered left. One would think that there are a slew of EV Debs running around the senate floor when you listen to these idiot pundits on MSNBC, CNN and FoxNews.

The final coffin nail in the left occured with assasination of Martin Luther King and Maalcom X. The moment MLK pronounced that we should have a national wage, X proposed to join forces with King and the anti war movement the whole thing was fucked from the start. Since then the left in this country, what little remains of it, has been rudderless and leaderless.

One would even call the offical purge the McCarthy hearings (don't ever let Conservatives tell you they don't need bug government. THEY do!!!).

This is all not a major realization for me right now. I've known this for years. I wonder if others who are voicing dissatisfaction with the latest administration are just coming to realize that. The sad truth is that Wall Street OWNS everything. With that they are not going to enact a leftist agenda and they have all the money and resources in the world to stop it.

What does have me concerned is with the latest economic crisis and the lack of class consciousness by working folks is which direction the blowback goes and what it is going to look like. Chances are anything leftist is going to be quickly attacked and anything rightward is going to be allowed to peacefully co-exist. Overall, I think the direction this country is taking is still very frightening.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:10 PM
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1. Its mighty ugly isnt it
knr and agree.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:12 PM
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2. The only way for the Repubs to reinvent themselves is to go Left
...when you think about it, that's how bad it's gotten.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:17 PM
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4. That's not going to happen
They are gonna pretend to dissagree with a lot of stuff that the Democrats do no matter that they would and have advocated the same thing themselves. Thus far the HealthCare legislation comes off to me as a huge privatization scheme. It's what Bush wanted to do with SS the Democrats are now doing with Healthcare.

Furthermore, the Democrats can mandate that inurance cover this and cover that till they are blue in the face. It ain't gonna work. When they start denying coverage the working class can't afford to take these guys to court. The Insurance companies have tons of lawyers on retainer that can drag that sucker out for years.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:14 PM
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3. K&R
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nannah Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:20 PM
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5. a few still here, bernie sanders and dennis
but the minimal change between now and the sixties is pretty depressing. older and sadder.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:23 PM
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7. Bernie Sanders?
That guy ditched his leftist stripes a long time ago. He voted for every appropritations bill for the Iraq War that came down the Pike. He's more of a moderate conservative now adays. There is not one leftist in the senate.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:20 PM
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6. We're here. As a matter of fact we are the majority, but
the minority is ruling us because they have cornered the government, the media and the economy. We have become marginalized and trying to fight the corporations and our presently corporately dominated government by following the rules isn't working. I think guerrilla thinking is in order. I'm not advocating violence but doing some smart thinking in making the system work for us until we can get them out of power and back to serving us instead of we serving them. We can't accept torture, preemptive wars, global pollution and other abuses of power as the status quo even though they are doing it legally.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:33 PM
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10. Those things are symptoms of capitalism
Which is something not mentioned often enough these days. To reduce a person to a living pile of shit so that he has no rights and their lives considered expendable is generally why those things occur. That's why the Iraq War still goes on today (No working class people benefit from that. Not to mention it's just working class people killing working class people).

Global Pollution is something that's seen as only effecting working class populations. Unless the solution benefits the wealthy nothing will be done about it. And you can bet those solutions are gonna be funded by the workers while the profits go into the hands of the wealthy.

And there really is no legal or illegal for the wealthy just so long as they don't start fucking with eachother. Bush, Cheney and the rest of those guys should be rotting in a jail cell. It's OK though considering that all the killing is done to benefit the wealthy and the only uppercrust guys to get killed in this were members of a podunk regime on the verge of collapse anyways.

At least THEY got the oil fields insteast of the Iraqi citizens who probably would have invested those profits into their infrastructure.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:26 PM
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8. k&r
Edited on Sun Dec-27-09 11:27 PM by amborin
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:28 PM
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9. If you are ready to accept a "rightist" country, no nothing can be
done.

I do not believe the country is as righist as GOP like
to claim it is.

It is my contention that the GOP on the Hill are much more
hard right than their constituents.

We shall see but there is the possibility that our Party
is reading the American People wrong. They may lose their
seats for trying to be too Republican.

No the country is not leftist. But it is not as right
as we are told.

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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:42 PM
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12. It has nothing to do with acceptance
One can look at something as it is and offer a narative on it with out accepting it (That is if you are using that as a term for complacent).

In my thirty plus years of life all I've seen from government and pundits is to teach the working class to hate itself. This has lead to a government that has become increasingly authoritarian and the people blaming each other rather than the wealthy one percent. The Working Class did not construct this system of capitalism and they did not set up an economic system that does not benefit them. They do not drive each other into poverty.

The Wealth top one percent do.

I am fucking tired of it.

I have seen families, relationships and people completely destroyed in every manner mentionable because of this. Not one iota of responsible is ever levies toward the wealthy one percent in this country for making laws that benefit them and ruin everyone else.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:34 PM
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11. I agree
We've barely made any progress against the rightward slide in recent years. If anything, even the relatively non-radical reforms that the administration is enacting may not stick if we the people can't find leaders who will speak/fight for the us, average citizen.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:49 PM
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13. If you have studied the psychology behind politics
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 12:21 AM by Larry Ogg

and have good understanding of history, you would have every reason to be concerned; because it would become more and more obvious that the country and the world is run by organized crime which has been legalized by and for the elite predator class who own just about every thing including the main stream media (M$M) and most politicians.


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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:56 PM
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14. I'd say I'm concerned but not really surprised
Well, except for thing. I was happy to see that the Immigration Debate as discussed by folks like Lou Dobbs is not as accepted by the American people as many of us were led to believe. That gives me reason for hope that the working class is not buying that turkey argument.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:14 AM
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15. I agree, all the BS on immigration is just a smoke screen that creates racism
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 12:19 AM by Larry Ogg
and diverts most peoples attention away from important issues that never make it on the radar. It's all about divide and conquer.

It seems that I see, in this country, more people jumping up and down over illegal immigrants; than one's who are worried about the free trade and the outsourcing of high paid jobs. Of course politicians and the M$M make one a much bigger issue, while trying to sweep the other under the rug...

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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:45 PM
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16. More to drive the working classes against themselves.
But yeah.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:55 PM
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17. K & R nt
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