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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:52 AM Original message |
An Avatar Awakening |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. So suddenly we're ready to de-under-bussify James Douchebag Cameron, just because -- |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You really have no idea how and why movies are made, do you? |
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lsewpershad (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Do Know |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. How is it propaganda? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. lol. bwana rescues noble savages from rapacious exploiters. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
97. I guess Lt. Uhura was a savage? |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. whoah |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Trolling your own OP (Which I liked, BTW) |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. If David is demonstrating absurdity, then what exactly are you demonstrating? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. District 9 |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. "Simply do not care"? |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I know I know |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
91. Rights never go away - they just get violated, even for decades or centuries (think slavery, e.g.) |
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GodDamLiberal (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. Didn't think that |
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frog92969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. "obsessed"? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 05:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. +1 |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
66. +2 . . . .. n/t |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. The film didn't have to be an exact parallel to Iraq... |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. yes |
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Old Time Pagan (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. Just something to consider |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
84. caring about this war makes one obsessed...? hmmmmm |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
10. It was absolute dreck. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
45. Why would you see a movie from a director you have such an obvious distaste for? NT |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. I work at a movie theater. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
55. ROFLMAO!!! |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. There are good scifi films and bad ones. There are good fantasy films and bad ones... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. There you go again, proteus_lives. Can't just go to a movie and enjoy it, eh? Too bad. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. I got to a lot of movies and enjoy them. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Disparaging a great sci-fi flick because its acting isn't Oscar-level and the plot isn't |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
100. If the acting isn't good, and the plot isn't any good... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Big difference between "not Oscar-level" and "isn't good. Same for "not the most |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Yes, I know. And I think you were being generous. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Okay, I think it was a GREAT movie. I loved it. Even took my wife to see it the next day. |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
112. I just got home from seeing it. I enjoyed it tremendously. You probably |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
11. Haven't seen it yet, but K & R! nt |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. This movie has an anti-war message and an enviromental message. |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
13. it was an excellent movie and i think it shows how much compassion we have that it is doing so well |
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pengillian101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 02:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What was historic about it? |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
53. folks protesting the iraq war before it even started |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 05:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. yes, our compassion for fictional characters knows no bounds. |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. exactly |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
54. not only fictional |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. you think that we don't need oil? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
17. Just saw Avatar today... Brilliant piece of work by Cameron and crew... |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
19. "But will anyone in that crowd lift a finger" You write so well, |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. i'm not fantasizing abotu commanding moviegoers |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
110. What you are fantasizing is that the majority of congress |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
73. actually you can often call Citibank and get your interest rate lowered |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
23. It's just a movie, get a grip. |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
24. I would have enjoyed the movie more if it ended when the protagonists went to jail |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. I would like to see theaters find a way for you to "reuse" your 3D glasses in future films... |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. In the theater where I saw Avatar there was a recycling bin |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
104. You can recycle them. The bag my RealD glasses camein said made from recycled content |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
105. The theater I saw it in |
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The_Commonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
25. Shame on you, David Swanson! |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. my wife and i have each paid to see it twice so far, and we paid for 4 friends to see it too! |
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The_Commonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. The people who willingly pay Fox... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. que sera sera. |
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The_Commonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Sure... No problem. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. exactly. |
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The_Commonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Wow! You really didn't... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. no- i was just ignoring the ludiocracy of it. |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
26. You think it's that simple? (Devil Advocate) |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I hope it is not a comparison to the middle east |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. when was the last time |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. Well, Iran sure is butchering its own people up. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. There are many also in the middle east that are "peace loving people trying to live in harmony" |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. *facepalm*. 'nuff said. |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. no s--- sherlock |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
29. As far as movies goes, it was pretty good. I don't think there was no direct correlation between |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
30. Yep, I defenitely got the message. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. out of sight, out of mind |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
32. Given many thinly veiled jabs at our empire in movies for the last several yrs.... |
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Ghost of Tom Joad (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
33. Is this the new Smurf movie? |
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N_E_1 for Tennis (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
34. Great Post, David |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
37. The movie is a message to the rest of the world |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. print and hand out |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
43. For crying out loud. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
70. Agreed |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
44. I don't get this "this movie is a message to the world," "explicitly about Iraq," etc... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The initial concept of the saga of Battlestar Galactica was made around Star Wars timeframe... |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Well said. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
47. My son saw it and made the same comparison. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
49. K&R |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
52. Damn, is this the holiday hangover? |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. OMG I spotted something |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. Yeah, there are some real literal minded folks populating this discussion thread |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. Excellent movie, very entertaining, exceptional computer graphics, and a message about |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
65. David....There are a lot of posters in this thread who don't seem to understand metaphor |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. K&R, but I will be waiting for it to come out on DVD. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Cameron's other films weren't as directly a correlation to oppression theme in this movie... |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
106. I'm usually a wait for DVD person myself. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. So the Na'vi are living in a dictatorship? |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
98. Beautiful |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
74. You want me to call my Congresscritter and discuss your movie review with them? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
75. Cameron himself said that the story is about ECOLOGY, not a race or people |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. But CORPORATIONS can't do it without the MILITARY |
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gopwacker_455 (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
81. it was rubbish |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Hello. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. why was it rubbish? |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
82. Is it ok that I have no interest |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. um, yeah... I don't think anyone is forcing you to go see it |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Just felt like it. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
92. Well, that's one movie I won't waste my time going to watch... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
93. I totally disagree. Everyone can see that the Na'vi are Palestinian Smurfs! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Political/Lit Interp is above some folks' level, but not most DUers, & not "big" movie directors |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. And clearly a sense of humour is above some folks' levels... |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
99. Avatar cost $230 million to make and was about 1/2 inch deep. |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-28-09 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
103. Alright...I'm seeing this movie Wednesday, so I'm going to forget everything I have |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
108. Yes, the movie was produced at a ridiculously high price. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
109. Nineteen years ago.... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
111. Saw it. Loved it. Actually shed a few tears over it. |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-29-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I just got home from seeing it. I enjoyed it tremendously. I'm |
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