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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:31 PM
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Where's the petition to keep the public option in the final bill?
There's one for investigating Rahm.

I asked in another thread and someone posted this FDL link

Except it's inactive: Latest update: 65,549 (9/13/09)


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:32 PM
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1. It's all about tearing down the Dems and helping the GOP
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 05:33 PM by NJmaverick
and has nothing to do with pushing a liberal agenda
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:34 PM
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2. What good will yet another petition do?
Rahm and President Lieberman don't listen to us little people.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:38 PM
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3. Well, it's like Krugman
says:

But on health care, I don’t see how he could have gotten much more. How could he have made Joe Lieberman less, um, Liebermanish? And I have to say that much as I disagree with Ben Nelson about many things, he has seemed refreshingly honest, at least in the final stages, about what he will and won’t accept. Meanwhile the fact is that Republicans have formed a solid bloc of opposition to Obama’s ability to do, well, anything.

Some of my commenters have argued that even with this bill Democrats may well lose seats next year — possibly even more than they would have without it. Definitely on the first point; on the second, I don’t think people realize just how damaging it would be if Obama didn’t get any major reforms passed. But in any case, that misses the point. The reason to pass reform, even inadequate reform, now isn’t to gain seats next year; it is to pass reform, which will do vast good, during the window that’s available. If it doesn’t pass now, it will probably be many nears before the next chance.


Still, complaining isn't activism.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:53 PM
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4. Neither is spamming DU. Just sayin'.
BTW, fuck Krugman.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:54 PM
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5. "BTW, fuck Krugman."
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 05:54 PM by ProSense
Go ahead.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 06:01 PM
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6. He may be your personal Jesus but he's just another MSM bobblehead to me.
I've lost all respect for him.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:33 PM
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9. "I've lost all respect for him. "
Of course you have.


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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 06:03 PM
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7. I think it's pretty obvious we won't get a public option at this point
Continuing to use what resources we have to fight that is taking time from other issues in the bills we could push to improve. My suggestions are to push the House to fight for their model of revenue sourcing (taxes on the wealthy) and their formulas for community rating which does not allow the insurance companies as high a multiplier. There are still some things which could make this bill less of a hit on workers and middle class Americans. We need to refocus, here.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:30 PM
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8. change.org recently started one, thanks for asking, it needs publicity
Tell the House: Don't Rubber Stamp the Senate's Health Care Bill

Targeting: Rep. Steny Hoyer (MD-05), Rep. Nancy Pelosi (CA-08) and The U.S. House

Sponsored by: CREDO Action

Despite an overwhelming public mandate for reform, the Senate health care bill went from bad to worse. Conservative members of the Senate Democratic caucus like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson were allowed to hold the entire process hostage and massively undermine the bill. Thanks in part to their sabotage, the Senate just passed a health care bill that isn't worth supporting.

The Senate bill fails in a number of ways. The most prominent is its complete lack of a public option. Without any meaningful attempt to introduce competition into the health insurance industry, we'll be saddled with the same bad actors whose monopolistic practices have caused the health care crisis in the first place.

However, despite what many Washington pundits are saying, the Senate bill isn't the final chapter in the fight for health care reform. The bill passed in the Senate must be merged with House's health care bill. This merger in the House-Senate conference committee is the best place for us to push back against the weak Senate bill. Progressives in the House must stand up for meaningful health care reform. It's now or never.

Tell your member of Congress and the House leadership not to rubber stamp the Senate's health care bill and to fight to make the bill stronger in the conference committee.

Sign the Letter

Don't Rubber Stamp the Senate's Health Care Bill

Dear Representative,

We need real health care reform. Don't rubber stamp the Senate's inadequate health care bill. Stand up and fight for a meaningful public option, stronger affordability provisions and a woman's right to choose.

(Your name here)


http://healthcare.change.org/actions/view/tell_the_house_dont_rubber_stamp_the_senates_health_care_bill


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In addition, the following are some of the petitions that are still online but I assume have already been delivered:

Stand with Dr. Dean: 416,425 signatures http://www.standwithdrdean.com/

Citizens for a Public Option: 108,521 sigs
http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com/

Progressive Change Campaign, Emergency Petition: Progressive Senators, Fight Lieberman!: >65,000 sigs
(website reminds of Obama quote: "Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange...including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest." -- Barack Obama
http://act.boldprogressives.org/cms/sign/porescue/?source=autoe1

Mike Capuano for U.S. Senate, sign letter demanding public option: 14,895 sigs
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/514891225

Health Care Reform with Strong Public Option, Petition to Speaker Nancy Pelosi: 6465 signatures
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?PubOp676&1

FDL Action, petition to President Obama to fight for what he said he believed in: no. of sigs not given
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/obamafail
(website quotes Obama: "...when I'm President, we're going to make drug and insurance companies compete for their customers just like every other business in America.")

MoveOn.org Political Action: Stand with Obama: Support a Public Health Insurance Option: unknown no. of signatures (already delivered, but form still active)
http://pol.moveon.org/popetition/

single-payer petitions (to support HR 676)

Democrats.com, Support Single Payer Health Care: 77,274 sigs
http://www.democrats.com/single-payer-petition

Dennis Kucinich, Petition to Establish Health Care as a Civil Right: no. sigs not given
http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/health_care_for_all_petition.pdf


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not a petition, but activist site:
Single Payer Action, "everybody in. nobody out."
http://singlepayeraction.org/



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