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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:49 PM
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Why, aren't the privately owned airlines responsible for our safety when it comes to air travel?
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 03:02 PM by mzmolly
Republicans claim that private industry is much more effective and efficient than government, so why aren't the airlines doing THEIR job properly screening potential terrorists?

In order to protect Americans in the air, we either need an effective international system of cooperation (which Republicans would likely oppose given an"international body would be involved. Or, we need to hold airlines responsible. Neither option would be acceptable to Dick Cheney.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:51 PM
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1. False premise - they actually are.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:54 PM
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2. I disagree. Cheney didn't rail on the airlines today.
He blamed the President.

My point is, no one would call for firing the head of NWA if we had a terrorist attack using one of their planes.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:55 PM
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3. Actually they would.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:55 PM
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5. Do you have link to demonstrate where this has happened?
Thanks.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:55 PM
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4. What are all those gubmint people doing in the airports, then?
Like the TSA guys that take your bags.
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TiberiusGracchus Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:15 PM
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10. If they were allowed to conduct their own security, private airlines would use racial profiling
It would yield the security that El Al enjoys but at a grievous cost to our principles.

We need unionisation at collective bargaining to protect the workers at our airports, not more allowances for corporations enriching themselves with "value-added" services like gestapo-style security.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:17 PM
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13. Chris Matthews had a professor on his program last night
who happened to be Muslim. She argued that she'd give up a few extra minutes to be safe. She also argued that Al Qaida has killed far more Muslims than any other group.

I don't think we'd have to encourage racial profiling. Anyone can become a terrorist and blow up a plane.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:55 PM
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6. Because they would do cost benefit analysis.
The airlines would calculate acceptable risk in $$$... costs of terrorism (mostly paying off the families) versus costs of security.

And not just literal $$$ costs, but costs in lost business. If security was less of a hassle people would fly more.

But the government operates politically, so we get absolutist stuff like "If it saves one life it's worth not letting anyone fly, wasting billions of man-hours in line-waiting, etc..."

All things considered, I might actually prefer the business approach to this particular problem.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:58 PM
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7. We have a slightlly combined approach
to this issue, but not enough international cooperation IMHO.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:03 PM
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8. El Al is the safest airline of all
Why do we not follow and learn from the Israelis when it comes to airline security? Never had an incidence ever.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:18 PM
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14. I agree. I guess the wait times are incredible but it seems to me
many would agree, if it meant we'd actually have a competent system.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:10 PM
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9. Aren't govt controlled security at airports....GASP... Socialism?
oh noes!!11
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:16 PM
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11. Whose government and which airport?
;)
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:16 PM
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12. Mebbe so, and from what I've been reading many, if not most, people
are not happy with the way it's working out.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:20 PM
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15. and do only socialists take 'social security' ???
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:20 PM
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16. LOL
The peeps on SS today, are largely Republican from what I gather? Silly them! ;)
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