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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 02:57 PM
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Maybe it's crazy but I'm worried about the MA Senate race (Jan 19)
I think voters are in a very contrary mood and Brown strikes me as a very slick candidate. There don't seem to be any polls, but I have a feeling this race may be closer than we'd like.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:01 PM
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1. If the dem loses....
....it might be the best thing that could happen to the party as a whole. Perhaps the dems might realize "more of the same corporate crap" isn't what we meant when we asked for change.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:02 PM
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2. If the dems lose, it's bad news for the party and the people.
Edited on Sat Jan-02-10 03:03 PM by cali
If they lose it tells us that Repubs may well be in control of everything but the Executive wing come next January. Losing doesn't make parties better.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:05 PM
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3. it made the GOP wake up
someone needs to SLAP the Dems across the face and wake them up
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:06 PM
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5. really? when?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:34 PM
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15. don't you remember? The GOP is totally liberal now.
Either that or they are really conservatives now unlike the Bush years when they were just a bunch of wimpy moderates.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:00 PM
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19. whaaT?
they control the senate already
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:18 PM
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21. ridiculous.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:05 PM
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4. needless to say, I disagree
We have a party in a tailspin because they refuse to dance with the one that brung them. If they lost a high profile race it might shut up all the people who keep screaming at us progressives that we are the problem and might make them actually start to tap the 40 zillion metric tons of dry powder they've accumulated over the last 3 years.

Unless.....change is still "off the table".
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:07 PM
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6. Who brought them? A broad coalition of voters, that's who
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:12 PM
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8. A coalition who demanded change and instead.....
....got the same corporatism they soundly rejected last go around. It was no mystery what people wanted after 8 years of Bushco giving away the store for wars and corporate greed. People really believed the dems when they insisted things would be different but after 3 years of everything we hoped for being "off the table" and 3trillion more reasons given in bailouts to the rich in the last year(while doing jack squat to create jobs), I'd say many young voters, many independent voters, and a huge pile of progressives voters.....will be looking for something good on tv that day rather than vote for more of the same. "We are slightly better" just isn't a winning strategy.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:15 PM
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10. change is a vague concept that means different things to different people
first of all, look at the American electorate, it's highly persuadable at any given time. And did the majority of people who voted for Obama vote for him on an anti-corporate basis?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:43 PM
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17. It did seem so at the time, yes. As I recall the financial meltdown did provide some of the impetus
for the Obama vote. Which would tell me people were interested in seeing the policies that kept letting the banksters destroy our economy reversed. I'm sure there are many who could not tell you what they think that would look like but they are aware they haven't seen it.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:10 PM
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7. Oh yeah? The people who brung 'em aren't the far left of the party.
Not at all. You folks are confused about who elected Obama. Very confused. I saw who did it while watching a polling place, and you're all way off base.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:16 PM
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11. tut tut tut, dear. and curb the paranoia. No one is trying to get rid of you.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:34 PM
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14. Maybe you guys can alert the people at the polls
and have the votes you don't like deleted.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:21 PM
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12. Your opinion. My opinion. That's a discussion.
Your nasty comment? Not so much.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:29 PM
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13. You started it
by implying I must be a "confused" person because I disagree with you. Expect that response on election day too if things keep going the way they are with "our" party......which is only our party when the DLC needs people to help elect their corporate stooges and is never our party after the elections. At that point we are always told to fuck off until the next election.

Some of us brought people to the polls too, gave out of our food money in the mistaken belief that someone actually might give a shit about us, and ruined any credibility we will ever have with the young people we convinced to vote for Mr McHopeNChange and deeply resent the treatment we get from "our" party every time we ask where the beef is.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 05:44 PM
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22. Maybe you lost credibility because you relayed the wrong
message. "Change," didn't and doesn't mean converting capitalism into socialism. Change doesn't mean lying about a for profit endeavor and calling it war with Al Queada. As for Congress, only YOU, the people, can make that change in the voting booth.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:38 PM
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16. At this stage of the game, we really CAN'T afford to lose a Senate
seat.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 03:59 PM
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18. Repukes don't think they have a chance and aren't spending money there.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:15 PM
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20. I got a call from the Brown campaign. It was all I could do to not laugh.
But I managed to calmly and politely explain that there was NO WAY that I could ever vote repuglican.
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