1805-page Kennedy-assassination book published

[CaliCompadre]

Written by the Chief Analyst for Military Records on the staff of the Assassination Records Review Board during the 1990s, Doug Horne.
Anyone interested in the topic should go for it. More info here: http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Featured_Inside_The_ARRB_Now_Available

(Horne believes the Zapruder film was altered and two different caskets were delivered to Bethesda Hospital on Nov. 22 1963).

[bigwillq]

1. Hello.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. Veeery interesting.....thanks.

and Welcome!!!

[AzDar]

3. Interesting.

:kick:

[Cetacea]

4. Welcome to DU.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Spoilers:

With a careful and skeptical analysis of all available data, it turns out he committed suicide.

[Sebastian Doyle]

15. Red Dwarf fan, are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6naJ08Tskk

[denem]

6. Not again. Tripe.

JFK's autopsy was as much of mess as his head. Choosing between a conspiracy so encompassing that it's virtually beyond comprehension it's still under wraps vs the SNAFU's of distraught ordinary people under overwhelming stress, I'll stick with Occam's Razor.

Computer simulations show the lethal bullet coming straight from the Book Depository. Solution? The Zapruder film was digitally altered, or perhaps manually altered leaving barely a trace. Oh wait, this was 1966, where was the technology? Spare me.

Roswell, I mean Oswald, fired the lethal shot. Acting alone? Let's dig up Elvis to make sure JFK isn't in the coffin with him.

[NYC_SKP]

7. Obama was behind this, you can count on it. 9/11, too.

Ever notice how he hasn't come forward to explain where he was on either day???


Coincidence?

I Think NOT!!!

:sarcasm:

[denem]

9. You forgot Oswald's CIA handle was Roswell.

His super human skill in firing his basic rifle were just that, exceping the flux capacitor scope.

[NYC_SKP]

11. I hear he's still alive, kickin' it in Bimini with Anna Nicole Smith.

Which surprises me because I thought he liked Russian women.

:shrug:

[denem]

13. I guess the Silicon reminded him of Sirius.

An Alpha Centauri Male to be sure, grabbing those binary stars.

[bertman]

33. Ve all like Roosky vimmen UNTIL ve meet Anna Nicole! Then it's HELLO DOLLY!!

[Ladyhawk]

8. I've stopped believing in most conspiracy theories,

probably because those I know who do believe in them swallow bigger and bigger slices of lies until they look absolutely silly to me. I have a friend who went from LIHOP to MIHOP to HOP OFF THE CLIFF. He actually believes the members of Flight 93 were removed from the plane and that all the phone calls to family members were faked.

He also believes H1N1 was engineered. I've studied enough about flu viruses to know how easily RNA viruses swap genetic information. I've tried to explain this, but I guess it's more fun to know the powers that be are out to get us.

This way lies madness.

I edged into MIHOP territory for awhile, but finally decided that incompetence was a more rational hypothesis. Me and my silly rationality.

[CoffeeCat]

30. My husband and you think alike...

...My husband and I have political discussions quite a bit, and I tend to be more conspiratorial than he is.

We were talking about how horrible High Fructose Corn Syrup and hydrogenated oils are. I questioned how in the
world big Ag could get away with this, and I said, "Are they trying to kill us?" My husband replied, "Honey...you
just don't get it. They aren't trying to kill us. We aren't important enough for them to focus on us so much
and they aren't smart enough to engineer that. They aren't trying to kill us--they just don't care if we die."

I thought that was pretty wise. Corporations, elites and government mucky mucks aren't smart enough (nor do they
care enough about us to engineer our demise) to kill us all. They're focused on their own greed and their
own little elite world and their power. So, if during their quest to conquer the world and make gazillions of
dollars--their endeavors happen to kill a lot of people---oh well.

I think that about sums up the reality where most "conspiracy theories" are concerned.

[villager]

10. what's really interesting is how willfully naive people remain about machinations of the powerful

assuming that that there can never be a counter-explanation except what we're given in the news, that the agenda of ruling elites is always transparent and known to all, etc....

"Nothing bad has ever happened that I don't know about," etc.

Despite all the evidence to the contrary....

You'd think -- especially after the Bush years -- people would be a tad more skeptical about "official explanations." But evidently not.

[denem]

12. Naive about "machinations of the powerful. That's right,

Nothing ever leaks. Call the plumbers.

[Cetacea]

14. Most americans never accepted the official story, to their credit.

Of course it's getting more difficult to get question official explanations, even here.

[denem]

16. And 40% plus don't believe in Evolution either.

Your point is? The unified Faux theory of everything? They KNOW it's true. Anything else is a concoction of Liberal Media Lies.

[denem]

17. OH sorry. BTW, JFK was also shot at by the DLC,

from the Glassy–Steagall Knoll. Elated but humbled, The Clenis would have to wait out another 30 years.

[Cetacea]

21. "Glassy–Steagall Knoll." Ok, that was agood one.

:)

[TheWatcher]

25. It is more important to feel good, ignore reality, and believe in the accepted paradigm

of least resistance, which requires as little critical thinking as possible.

There a couple of "Exhibit A's" in this very thread.

I bear them no ill will, though.

I merely pity them and envy them at the same time.

Their ignorance is invincible, but they are blissful and happy with it, and pretty much unaffected by any hard reality.

Who knows, maybe their bubble actually will "protect" them forever.

[peacetalksforall]

18. Wow - an entire teamof naysayers on duty for this one. I wish we could have two

threads - those who like to explore this event on an ongoing basis of new releases of books and findings - vs another for the naysayers. I dream for open minds.

Good luck, team. Hope your work is accepted by your bosses.

[Cetacea]

19. They are quick!

[denem]

20. I'm bi-polar so I keep an open mind

during manic dreams.

My next Book is Schizophrenia.

[CaliCompadre]

22. Nah. Only a few nay-sayers who post many sarcastic comments each

Note that sarcasm, rather than substance, prevails in their post. They tell you that (enter famous person such as Mother Theresa) killed JFK, as if that somehow disproves conspiracy theorists. They also don't know what the ARRB, and if they do, they pretend not to know Doug Horne.

[peacetalksforall]

23. You're right. No substance. If paid by volume, they are employed. If by substantiation. Gone.

But, I guess it kind of gets boring repeating Spector talk after all these decades.

Sorry there isn't more talk about this new book. I would post it again tomorrow or I can kick it.

Thanks for the news.

[villager]

24. You're right -- it's always snark and sarcasm...

That seems to be all they have by way of "substantive discussion..."

[Cetacea]

26. It's a shame, really.

It would be nice to actually compare notes and theories without all of the snark and insults.

[TheWatcher]

27. But isn't that really the purpose that snark and insults serves?

It is the most useful weapon people have to to completely dilute, derail, and break down an otherwise intelligent discussion to insure that no intelligent or thoughtful debate takes place.

Some people use it as part of an agenda, others do it out of fear, because they cannot handle any sort of reasonable discussion.

I just wish that when threads like this got started, we could IGNORE all of that and maintain the integrity of the discussion.

People who don't want to know anything, who for whatever reason wish to remain as ignorant as possible, are going to do what it takes to make that happen. They aren't reachable, and it really is a waste of time to even respond to them. Their minds are closed, and they don't want them to open. What's worse, they want everyone to be as closed as they are. They have nothing useful to contribute.

I say ignore them and continue the discussion. :)

[Cetacea]

28. Cheers.

I don't know enough about this book to contribute much. There was another book that came out last year that received much acclaim but I don't remember the author or title. It was written by a veteran researcher. Are you familiar with it?

[Hardrada]

31. There was one I tried to order but they were out of it

and I mislaid my note about it. I think it was the book you were referring too and it ties everything together.

[Cetacea]

32. "JFK and the Unspeakable : Why He Died and Why it Matters" by James W. Douglass, published April 200

Here is a link to Amazon reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/product-reviews/1570757550?pageNumber=2

[H2O Man]

29. Interesting.

I'll be buying and reading it. Thanks.

Recommended.

[apocalypsehow]

34. The best book on the JFK assassination ever written was "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner. n/t.

[the other one]

36. Posner? Pack of bullshit. Pure apologist for the Warren ccommission. Nt

http://www.assassinationweb.com/ecc.htm

for a good thrashing of posner check the link

[bertman]

35. Someone please read this and give us a review. I read nine or ten of these books

last year, so I don't want to get into another one unless it's groundbreaking.

Thanks for posting this.