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davidswanson
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:43 PM Original message |
Yes, Shooting Handcuffed Children |
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G_j
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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EFerrari
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks, David. |
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Bjorn Against
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R, thanks for informing us about this important story. |
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Mari333
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. this is like Vietnam |
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Cetacea
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. sadly +1 |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
59. No donny we are the walrus.. |
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bertman
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
60. You are so right, Mari333. One report says that the troops made their raid without informing |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. All this OP did was cloud the topic with bullshit. Do you think we are there |
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pundaint
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
94. If the government that we are propping up says so, true or not we need to get the fark out! |
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YouTakeTheSkyway
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:43 AM Response to Reply #94 |
100. It's not necessarily that the Afghan government is our enemy, if they're falsely accusing us |
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pundaint
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
329. And what will American lives and treasure do to change that situation? |
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spiritual_gunfighter
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
192. I wonder what your response would have been |
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TBF
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
287. If you are so determined to paint us a picture, why |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #287 |
293. OP claimed cuffed and shot, a war crime against kids. |
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unc70
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #293 |
319. Certainly sourced well enough to deserve investigation, not blanket denials |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #319 |
321. One investigation concluded without mention of murders. |
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YouTakeTheSkyway
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
99. You wouldn't want to wait for this to be thoroughly investigated before jumping to conclusions? |
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Jumping John
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #99 |
166. I am still waiting for the thorough investigation of the Pat Tillman murder bwahahaha |
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G Gordon Libby
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Mon Jan-04-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
337. It IS a lot like Vietnam. |
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uppityperson
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you for all the links. |
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kohodog
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Too important an item to deep six |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you, David, hang in there !! |
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annm4peace
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. Copy and paste and send to your Congress members |
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Coleen Rowley
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Yes, send it all the U.S. Congresspersons ASAP! |
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asdjrocky
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Done and done. |
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C_Lawyer09
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
57. Where did you read that it was US troops? |
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Redwoodhippie
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Aghan Investigator Wafa said it was US troops |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. 4 versions now. UN, NATO, Karzi people, and school teacher version (tele interview times). |
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maryf
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #79 |
121. If you read with a heart... |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Nope. Emotions in News are bad, especially when fact is lacking |
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maryf
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #127 |
142. Heart does not always mean emotion |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #142 |
146. Other poster put up pictures |
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maryf
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #146 |
175. Those are high school students, for the most part... |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. Like I said, the pictures speak for themselves |
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maryf
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #178 |
194. They are kids. nt. |
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TicketyBoo
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #178 |
206. I agree that something doesn't look right. |
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arikara
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #175 |
238. I had the same argument, possibly with the same ignored |
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Bjorn Against
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Thanks... |
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jbnow
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:30 AM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Even worse it wouldn't matter if they were al-Qaeda. It is a war crime, |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:39 AM Original message |
No matter who it was it would be murder and IF it happened |
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Robb
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #78 |
163. Wafa has made a good career |
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gratuitous
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. Well now, who are you going to believe? |
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StarfarerBill
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R. Thanks, David. |
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uppityperson
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. Oh F me, will someone please rec to overcome my accidental unrec |
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emilyg
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I did. |
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uppityperson
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Thanks, as soon as I clicked I tried to close but too late. I think I'll not try more today |
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Atticus
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. There are a lot of quotes from a lot of different sources, but it is next to impossible for us to |
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debbierlus
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The American people don't view it as our war, they view it as the government's war |
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aquart
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
82. Then re-institute the draft. |
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Coleen Rowley
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Complicity |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Welcome to DU, Coleen! |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. It's heartbreaking that this is still going on. You're right, |
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davidswanson
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
48. well said |
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Goldstein1984
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
89. Nicely said. Thank you. |
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Loudmxr
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
330. Welcome to DU- Nice post |
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EFerrari
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Imho, sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is to |
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jbnow
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
87. Would this be any less horrible in a "good war"? |
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Solly Mack
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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laughingliberal
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. Horrible. nt |
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burrowowl
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. If true |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Even if we didn't do it, we ARE part of the situation that made it more probable. |
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New Dawn
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. Kick for truth. |
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tnlefty
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. I just received an error message - you've already recommended |
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thesquanderer
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
242. possible double-click |
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Warren Stupidity
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
26. I note that so far none of your assailants have shown up here to explain |
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gratuitous
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Isn't that curious? |
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EFerrari
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:20 PM Original message |
To be fair, this story is so horrible, it could induce trauma in some people. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. Yep claiming war crimes and getting all tawana brawley with the facts |
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Warren Stupidity
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #49 |
161. The fact that the mods locked that thread is shameful. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #161 |
168. The camera is an awesome tool for truth. The pictures dont show kids (linked, not imbed) |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
193. We have always had a war wing in DU |
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earcandle
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
28. Davis Thank you for real investigative reporting. What do we do about this? Is Obama even |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
196. What we got here are war crimes |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
29. Thank you David |
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L0oniX
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
31. To all the deniers and apologists ...how would you feel if it were your children? |
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Cassandra2010
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Will they |
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L0oniX
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. My bet is that they either are X military or they have family or friends in the military. |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Or this story is just to horrible to take in very easily. |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. +1 nt |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. I would approve of a post being locked again, for shit sourcing |
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L0oniX
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
275. You've convinced me. Our military didn't and never kills innocent people. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #275 |
278. Pro peace. War is regretfully the only option at points |
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pleah
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R |
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seeinfweggos
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
33. i would like to see a un investigation and i wonder what units these were |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. The UN found no execution took place, more investigation would be great |
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bahrbearian
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. good work,,, IBTL |
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asdjrocky
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
36. The truth is the truth man. |
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bvar22
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Sat Jan-02-10 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
37. Boy, a lot of people... |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
55. The one locked for shit sourcing and rule violations.. |
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
38. Like blowing up school children with a roadside bomb or suicide vest |
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Bjorn Against
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. No one said that was OK... |
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seeinfweggos
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. funded with American tax dollars |
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EFerrari
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Black Water was outed last week as a CIA asset. |
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seeinfweggos
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. i wouldn't be surprised if they are contractors |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I would send Rambo, and cartoon guy, guess a mulligan is easier than a retraction |
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seeinfweggos
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. hmm |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. That is the OP's purpose. They could be clear and say |
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seeinfweggos
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. this is from the ap story |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Conflicts with the UN finding and of course NATO reports |
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seeinfweggos
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. well, nato is an biased investigator. i'm not saying they should be assumed to be lying but |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Here is the UN info |
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seeinfweggos
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. yeah, you have a point |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. The OP ignores the real issue and clouds it with his ego driven horseshit. |
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Ohiodemoc
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
126. Unlike you, I regret the death of these children |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Unlike you I can regret an event and still look at in a rational light |
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Ohiodemoc
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #131 |
143. That's false. the UN "continues to investigate this incident to help bring clarity to the situation" |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Pictures. Other poster found them. Show no little kids and no rifle hits |
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Ohiodemoc
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #147 |
153. You said "The UN says no." Care to explain why you made the false statement? |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Having seen the real thing done in bosnia |
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Ohiodemoc
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Thanks for correcting the false statement |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #159 |
165. Lets do take a look at the pictures, initial investigation is DONE. |
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Ohiodemoc
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #165 |
170. But do you agree that you falsely stated that the "UN says no"? |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #170 |
176. Initial investigation done, results are on the internet |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #131 |
187. UN doesn't say "No". Read your own links. |
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maryf
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
300. Wow the UN article does say students were killed in your link: |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #300 |
303. Yep, no mention of cuffs and execution, a flagrant crime. Guess they forgot that part. |
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maryf
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #303 |
304. Avoiding the point once again, you've said that their were no kids, students |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #304 |
306. No cuffs, no kids, no signs of execution. |
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Duende azul
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
122. You are wrong. There are still no UN Findings out, |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #122 |
132. They dont even HINT at a war crime (execution) |
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P. Dexter
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #132 |
213. The UN fired a diplomat for speaking out against Karzai's fraud |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #213 |
219. how do you cough up lung blood on your hands if they are zipped behind your back? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
233. People can be executed in the back or the chest; |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #233 |
237. Yep, cuffed people bleed all over their hands. Lung blood from mouth on hands, note |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #237 |
265. Deleted message |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #265 |
271. Seen lots of pictures of executed people |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Does it have to be technically a "war crime" or "execution" to register on your horror meter, |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I would take a look at the UN findings |
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Coleen Rowley
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Were the killings at Haditha a war crime? |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #88 |
111. Yeppers. involved were charged |
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Coleen Rowley
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
331. Charged but not convicted of Haditha killings |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
93. I'm pretty sure torturing prisoners is a war crime too. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #93 |
119. This is not a leak. It is published information. Here the UN says NO CRIME |
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Duende azul
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #119 |
135. Hell, you are outright misrepresenting what the UN said. They do NOT say there is no crime |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. I should shut up because you dont like what I say..aww |
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Duende azul
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #137 |
158. No, no. I just want you to be factually correct. And you are making progress. |
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Pavulon
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #158 |
167. Now work on the OP, the ENTIRE post is based on obscured message. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #119 |
195. Please read your own links! I can't find where "UN says NO CRIME." |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #119 |
302. I see no place where the UN said NO CRIME |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #302 |
323. I would thing the UN would mention a war crimes investigation |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
102. I guess we should all apologize for not supporting the troops |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #102 |
113. They dont need your support. The have the support of those who pay |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Excuse me but I have payed for 50 years. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #118 |
124. The whole "I support / I dont support" thing is silly |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #124 |
267. Well I knew my vote for Mcgovern meant something |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #267 |
269. No, put pressure where it is due. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #269 |
288. Even if they did the crime? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #288 |
297. If Army Spec Ops |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #297 |
326. Yes |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #326 |
333. umm, no. Same shitty link from the times from the OP's locked rant. Nothing from the UN |
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Mon Jan-04-10 07:04 AM Response to Reply #333 |
335. So you are saying that they were not killed? |
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Mon Jan-04-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #335 |
340. No, the guy who twice claimed we executed kids, |
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Mon Jan-04-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #340 |
342. I guess it all depends on the meaning of murder dose it not? |
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Mon Jan-04-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #342 |
343. Yeah the law is made clear in BCT to every inductee. |
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Mon Jan-04-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #343 |
344. I guess you missed the part where I said this is not viet nam. |
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Tue Jan-05-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #344 |
345. Pictures show men |
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Tue Jan-05-10 09:12 AM Response to Reply #345 |
346. Well first lack of evidence is not evidence. |
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Tue Jan-05-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #346 |
347. The OP owns that "white hot" little rant and this thread |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
110. Of course the war is illegal. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Now that is the basis of opinion. I dont knowhow you would get that to the UN |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #114 |
129. So you can not come up with just one point for the legality of this war? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #129 |
133. NATO seems to be there. So NATO is breaking the law too? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #133 |
141. Gosh. Are you trying to be sarcastic? Because NATO is there, the war is legal? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #141 |
155. Still looking for that resolution that says war there is illegal. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
123. What's your source for: "forces took fire, forces returned fire"? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #123 |
130. The UN investigation, that says this did not happen. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #130 |
138. That says what did not happen? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #138 |
152. See pictures, no kids, no rifle hits in the head. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #152 |
216. UN says 8 were students in local schools. Please read your own links! |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #216 |
223. OP says US military executed them in custody and rants on. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
201. Please read your own links! "says this did not happen." |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #123 |
140. Pavulon made that up all by himself. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #140 |
157. I set that as a scenario, in this thread, and its locked cousin. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #157 |
217. You had no evidence to suggest the troops to fire but you "set it up as a scenario"... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. I posted that in the locked cousin of this thread. I think these pictures |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #220 |
226. Do you have pictures of the entire crime scene? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #226 |
229. Sure wish I did and a conclusive report, however I did not post the us military executed kids |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #229 |
235. Well I would suggest you back your material up before you post |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #235 |
239. I corrected ONE post, made in ERROR. The OP posted TWICE the US military executed kids in custody |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. I have seen more than one mispost from you... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #241 |
247. You can wait til your grave. I will not back off the photos. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #247 |
307. As explained to you, there are many kids who look adult, especially hirsute |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #307 |
311. I fully accept they are dead. I am waiting for the cuffed and murdered |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #247 |
309. I posted a response to you in the wrong place... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #247 |
312. I guess its the format, I am posting to you... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #312 |
313. We hit the limit of linked threads |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #313 |
315. duh |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #315 |
318. That is why I take it seriously. It should not be mixed with political points |
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #46 |
106. I suspect Blackwater IS Al qaeda...... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
181. I think Blackwater is Al-Qaeda.... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
109. Well said. |
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I have read this thread and haven't seen anyone say |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Straw man. No one here has endorsed that. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
162. fail |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
174. Can you please show me a poster who is saying killing children is ok? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
50. Thank you David. K&R |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
58. I K&R'd the first one |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
61. All boils down to UN sourced information that does NOT support your war crime, retractions are hard |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
66. Oh, all those sources are from the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy that is undermining our noble effort. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Read them, they all say different shit. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
197. Gott min uns |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
67. K & R |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
71. Because the mass-murder is being committed by "our guy" now. n/t |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
76. Where is bin Laden? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
81. Thank you David for this excellent thread |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
83. most of our children have not been handcuffed and shot in the head or tortured |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:43 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. "especially the democratic party cheer leading". |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
151. and yet there is no rationalizing this |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #84 |
171. If only that guy in your post was electable |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:05 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Wow - horrific pics |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #83 |
144. Nice find. Those are not little kids. I was a student when carrying a rifle |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #144 |
222. OP doesn't mention shooting in Head. Do you have bad memories of Bosnia you need to talk over? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #222 |
225. Handcuffed people dont cough up lung blood on their hands |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
85. These are war crimes, and we are responsible for them |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #85 |
117. That crime part should be a hint. We are responsible after |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:01 AM Response to Original message |
90. But.. Obama says this is a GOOD war.. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
92. K&R. As usual, we're intensifying our war crimes. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
95. Thanks, David |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
96. Scary, the people accusing you on another thread of having made this up, posting agitprop, etc. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
97. Silly You! |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
98. we are all war criminals!! |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
101. My country 'tis of me....... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
103. I wouldn't question you ...... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
104. K & R for a dang good job reporting the news in DU... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #104 |
136. Thankfully "want" does not get people arrested and jailed |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #136 |
179. so you believe nato and the un...who are the ones supporting these wars... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #179 |
188. I believe these pictures show a man who bled out on his hand |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #136 |
228. Please read your own link! "According to the UN and NATO it did not happen?" |
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Sun Jan-03-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #104 |
328. I guess that is why there are so many people who believe in Karma and Hell. Because whoever would |
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
105. Did this happen? Not "provable". Is there a significant likelihood... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. I remember when news of Mai Lai first started breaking, people would get ANGRY |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. I read about an investigation and trial.. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #115 |
185. And a cover up. And efforts at all levels to demonise the one person... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
107. $icko Empire |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
112. Yay!!! Back where this oughta be, top dog!! K&R all day long! |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
116. Thank you David, you are an inspiration to all of us to take action to make the world a better place |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
120. Recommended. Someone needs to go to jail for this |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #120 |
134. I agree. If the facts supported the allegations made |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #134 |
139. Kai Eide. Isn't that the guy who ordered a cover-up Karzai's fraud? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #139 |
160. You already got an out? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #160 |
172. Show me where the UN said this is not an execution |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #172 |
182. How do you cough up lung blood on your hands if they are zipped behind your back? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #182 |
210. You dodged the question... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #210 |
215. For fucks sake. I corrected my post 3 times, this op will not do that. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #215 |
224. From your very own link.... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #224 |
227. I did not post the US military executed kids. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #227 |
231. So you are having to back off yet another claim.... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #231 |
245. I corrected ONE post made in error. The op correct nothing. Not on the lock and not here. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
125. Still love your original piece best... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
128. Damn. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #128 |
164. It was supposed to be a 'joint exercise,' ... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
145. recommend. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
148. K&R - |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
149. What People Will Rationalize... very telling |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
150. Pictures worth 1000 spiteful words. No kids, no rifle hits in the head |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #150 |
169. Here's the brief from the link |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #169 |
173. I have a bitch with the OP saying US troops executed kids, and selling it like |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #173 |
177. To be fair, the OP didn't say the US "executed" kids |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #177 |
190. See the locked thread. He sure as shit did and I hope he has the balls |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #190 |
204. Deleted message |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #204 |
211. I am enabling jack shit by asking for a common sense |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #211 |
286. You Want a Common Sense Approach? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #286 |
295. The politics you posted are fine, claiming a mass murder of children |
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Tue Jan-05-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #190 |
348. I hope you have the balls to admit you're wrong here. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #173 |
180. "they are not kids and are combatant age" Says who, you? sources?? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #180 |
184. Say the pictures where the guy executed (hands zipped) bled out on his hand |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #184 |
191. The truth is those pictures showed kids, admit it, truthseeker, nt. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #191 |
202. dupe |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #191 |
203. Those pictures do not support the OP's postiion |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #203 |
209. They are kids |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #209 |
218. How do you cough up lung blood on your hands if they are zipped behind your back? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #218 |
259. "these guys arent 10" |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. No, the articles said: AP (12-14), LAtimes (12-17), UN (nothing), and RAWA had the photos |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #209 |
257. They look like bearded young men to me, unless you have other pictures. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #257 |
261. The kid photos all say they are in school, the other's say peasants... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. You teach kids from Afghanistan? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #263 |
266. No, but from Pakistan... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #173 |
183. I believe we are talking about |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #183 |
186. No , that is a crystal clear term. Though many do not know that. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #173 |
200. The point remains that we are slaughtering Afghans and Pakistanis |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #150 |
199. Rawa says they were school children |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #199 |
208. Sure grow faster, now how does lung blood bleed out on your hands when they are behind your back? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. The Afghan government said they were civilians killed by US/NATO forces |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #150 |
236. The photos you link to are of bearded young men, not kids. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #236 |
248. My point exactly, I was a student when I was on active duty |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #248 |
252. Associated Press says 8 of the dead were children between 12-14 |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. I take offense with the "US military executed children in cuffs" |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #253 |
255. I'm back on the ages still. It seems like each source has a different set of ages |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #255 |
256. I will not discount the contractor aspect. I hope |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #256 |
260. If it were contractors, it would seem to be payback for the 8 deaths, hence a motive |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #260 |
268. Me too. I will continue to watch this |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
154. See, David? What I said in the other thread that was locked.... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
189. Commence withdrawal immediately. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
198. Hey OP. How do you bleed out lung blood on you hand when it is zipped behind your back? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #198 |
207. Why don't you redeploy to AfPak and live out your fantasies? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #207 |
230. To old, dont wanna, been there done that. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #230 |
250. FWIW, I suspect the killers were CIA paramilitary contractors |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #250 |
254. That could be the case, then the OP would need to retract the us military |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #198 |
221. Are you saying we shot them in the lungs or hearts instead of the head? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #221 |
234. I am trying to figure out how you bleed out all over you hand when it is zip tied |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #234 |
240. How do you know the picture you saw was not of one of the two people who were not handcuffed? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #240 |
251. More than one picture, not a cuff to be seen. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #251 |
258. First I would ask who took these pictures... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #258 |
270. Me too. I would like the OP to retract his US military killed cuffed kids |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #270 |
272. What do you mean "me too"? I was asking you for a source I wasn't agreeing with you. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #272 |
274. Nope, that shows a guy who bled out his nose. Clearly |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #274 |
276. A nose bleed so severe that it looks like half his face is blown off? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #276 |
277. No, a guy who had blood in his lungs or guts when he dies. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #277 |
279. I will not look at some sadistic site called "BestGore.com"... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #279 |
280. I will not embed the picture but here is the point |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #280 |
282. Show me where the OP claimed these people died of head wounds |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #282 |
283. OP claimed the US military cuffed and executed kids, got locked |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #283 |
285. You did not answer my questions. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #285 |
294. So there is an 80% chance a random body from the "crime" |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #294 |
299. Sure there is an 80% chance that a random body was restrained... |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #299 |
305. Those are pretty good odds on that claim |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #270 |
292. Children or Adults |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #292 |
298. That is a fine political statement. Murder matters, shooting cuffed kids |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #198 |
243. Let's have a closer look. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #243 |
249. OP said children executed by US military cuffed |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #249 |
264. Deleted message |
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Sun Jan-03-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #264 |
273. Here ya go..OP has not retracted this shit yet. Will he have the balls to?? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #273 |
284. "Seems like the UN did not conclude that either." |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #284 |
316. No mention of cuffs and murder in custody. Think they may have mentioned that part. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #249 |
281. Would the villagers need keys to undo the "flex ties?" |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #281 |
290. OP said cuffed and shot. Flex cuffs can be cut off |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #290 |
296. Would the villagers have cut them off before burial? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #296 |
301. I would assume if the locals had them they would turn them over |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #301 |
310. Here's the only mention in OP about US troops: |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #310 |
314. Nope here are his words, he owns them. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #314 |
320. Tearing my hair out looking for your quote in the OP! |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #320 |
322. I am saying a cuffed man appears to have bled out on his hands. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #322 |
327. wow. your excuses are all so imaginative. nt. |
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Sun Jan-03-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #327 |
332. What do you have, I posted photos and links |
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Mon Jan-04-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #332 |
334. I take as fact the information provided in link after link. |
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Mon Jan-04-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #334 |
341. Good luck with your beliefs, Not one source |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #198 |
246. yes - let's send the military team that investigated Pat Tillman's death |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
205. Kick |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
214. Who were the non-military Americans on a sanctioned operation?? |
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Sun Jan-03-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #214 |
232. CIA contractors, like Blackwater |
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Mon Jan-04-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #232 |
339. Yes, CIA contractors must have murdered |
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Sun Jan-03-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
244. Sounds like a war crime to me |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
289. If Bush and not Obama were in the WH - there wouldn't even be any debate about this. This would be |
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Sun Jan-03-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
291. Jesus. Obama needs to address this to the nation PERSONALLY and NOW. |
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G Gordon Libby
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Mon Jan-04-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #291 |
336. It took him three days |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
308. the ugliness of war continues |
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Sun Jan-03-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
317. This calls for another Peace Prize |
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Mon Jan-04-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #317 |
338. Well, they handed that baby killer |
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Sun Jan-03-10 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
324. Welcome to HYPOCRISY |
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Sun Jan-03-10 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
325. assassinations |
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Wed Jan-06-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
349. Sell any "white hot" books with this yet? |
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