What an anti-climax: G-spot is a myth

[FarCenter]

A sexual quest that has for years baffled millions of women — and men — may have been in vain. A study by British scientists has found that the mysterious G-spot, the sexual pleasure zone said to be possessed by some women but denied to others, may not exist at all.

The scientists at King’s College London who carried out the study claim there is no evidence for the existence of the G-spot — supposedly a cluster of internal nerve endings — outside the imagination of women influenced by magazines and sex therapists. They reached their conclusions after a survey of more than 1,800 British women.

“Women may argue that having a G-spot is due to diet or exercise, but in fact it is virtually impossible to find real traits,” said Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology, who co-authored the research. “This is by far the biggest study ever carried out and it shows fairly conclusively that the idea of a G-spot is subjective.”

In the research, 1,804 British women aged 23-83 answered questionnaires. All were pairs of identical or non-identical twins. Identical twins share all their genes, while non-identical pairs share 50% of theirs. If one identical twin reported having a G-spot, this would make it far more likely that her sister would give the same answer. But no such pattern emerged, suggesting the G-spot is a matter of the woman’s subjective opinion.

<SNIP>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6973971.ece

Meanwhile, David Matlock, a Beverly Hills cosmetic surgeon, is credited with creating an artificial version of the G-spot. In some cases this has resulted in an over-sensitive zone which induces orgasms when, for example, women drive over bumps in the road.

[Odin2005]

1. *Grabs popcorn*

:popcorn:

[Bluebear]

2. Move over

[Odin2005]

5. LOLZ!

[JVS]

14. Joining you

:popcorn:

[devilgrrl]

138. Anyone want some Dots?

[flvegan]

3. Please do share.

:popcorn:

[DKRC]

45. Here y'go

[SaveOurDemocracy]

49. Gr8 animation ... stealing ...

:hi:

[DKRC]

53. You don't have to steal it

'cause I stole it already. :evilgrin:

:hi:

[pissedoff01]

4. Shit.. All that digging for nothing?

:)

[Odin2005]

6. TMI!

:rofl:

[cbdo2007]

7. Just because some people can't find it, doesn't make it a myth.

[uppityperson]

8. poke around long enough, searching, searching, and yes, it can feel quite good

"The quest for the G-spot will not be abandoned. "

Thanks Doc Matlock, now we're going to have to watch for women driving around looking for bumpy roads. Hmmm, wonder what a teeter-totter would be like?

[liberal_at_heart]

47. Massage chairs are good for a warm up. lol.

[Jamastiene]

86. I know where plenty of bumpy roads are.

I wonder how much that surgery is and if my new health insurance will cover it. :evilgrin:

[old mark]

101. Possibly accounts for a lot of motorcycle sales. Many never even leave the garage. nt

[47of74]

9. MATTTTTTTTTLOCK!

[NYC_SKP]

10. Call me crazy, but if nobody minds I'm gonna keep lookin'!!!

It's a journey, not a destination. :P

[Fire1]

18. Skip!! You are CRAZY!!1 ROFLMAO!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

50. LMAOOOOO... alrighty then.

:hi:

[H2O Man]

11. I can't argue on the merits

of scientific studies, but there is an Irish oral tradition that tells of the H2O Man-spot.

[NYC_SKP]

24. Ah, traditions. I love that about the Irish...

...and the Welsh, the Basque, the French...

:P

[Bigmack]

12. Needs more research....

I will offer my hand - totally unselfishly - to help in the "G-spot Manhattan Project".

Never mind research on global warming or renewable energy...

[pissedoff01]

20. Ultrasound nails location of the elusive G spot (New Scientist):

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19726444.100-ultrasound-nails-location-of-the-elusive-g-spot.html

[blogslut]

13. Translation:

There is no magic penis.

C L I T O R I S

[flying_wahini]

15. GSPOT does exist.....

"If one identical twin reported having a G-spot, this would make it far more likely that her sister would give the same answer. But no such pattern emerged, suggesting the G-spot is a matter of the woman’s subjective opinion."

OR - one twin married well and the other didn't, OR one twin just has a better partner......

OR..... you fill in the blank..... hahahaha (maybe not a blank, but you get the picture)


It DOES exist....

[Lorien]

29. Yep. nt

[Milspec]

97. Yes Virginia

there is a G spot.

[Warpy]

16. While I like orgasms as much as anyone

getting them driving over the speed bumps in the supermarket parking lot would be both inconvenient and distracting. No thanks, Dr. Matlock.

He sounds like the heir to Dr. James Burt, a real piece of work who ruined a lot of lives before they finally stopped the bastard: http://med-fraud.org/medical_fraud__and_the_criminal_19.htm

However, I always knew the G-spot idea was bunk put out by men who hated warming a lady up and just wanted to stick it in and get it over with.

[HeresyLives]

19. Yes, what a sudden distraction THAT would be

in a busy parking lot! :rofl:

[SharonAnn]

44. Yes, I lived in Dayton at the time his work came to light and the suits were filed.

It was quite the scandal(s) and it seemed like there was always something new about his work being published.

Several hospitals had taken away his staff and surgery privileges, but St. Elizabeth's, the Catholic hospital that advertised themselves as the hospital for women still let him perform surgery.

[iris27]

57. Whoa - I don't think that's a fair comparison.

It sounds like this Dr. Burt was performing these surgeries on unknowing women who'd come to him for totally different problems. That is a HUGE violation and worthy of a lifetime in jail, in my opinion.

I think it's a bit of a leap to assume that this Dr. Matlock is also some sort of surgical rapist, just because he works with roughly the same area of the body,

[Warpy]

58. A plastics guy who wants to improve female anatomy?

He sounds like a successor to Burt to me, even if he gets consent from his patients.

It's not his field and he's really not getting informed consent if that particular problem has arisen.

[XanaDUer]

68. ROFL!

:rofl:!!!!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

17. I say bullshit!

I have one....;)

:blush:

[gratuitous]

21. Well, the study WAS just on British women

So there's that going against it.

[Kalyke]

67. Me too.

It's the area inside, behind the clitoris.

There are nerve endings that run all up through there, culminating in the clitoris. It's not so much science as anatomy.

Are these people daft?

:shrug:

[old mark]

100. Thanks for sharing. I think it's the hunt that's important, not the capture-

Press on, regardless.

mark

[Capn Sunshine]

117. absolutely, Mark. It's the adventure, not the destination

Ride onward lads! We'll find that spot yet!
Hi McTatas! You look positively fetching this evening. Join me in a Gin Ricky?

[old mark]

140. Endeavor to persevere. nt

[Book Lover]

22. Questionnaires? It's a question of anatomy

And no such bundle of nerves has been identified in any body preserved for study. I'm very glad to know that so many of my sisters feel they have one*, but its psychological: the anatomy doesn't back you up.

* Lucky women to have extra sensitive experiences!

[Liquorice]

46. Anatomy does back it up. nt

[RainDog]

75. from links here - the g-spot is identifiable on ultra-sounds

from another link here - g-spot is the term to identify the deep structure of the female clitoral tissue behind the clitoris. that tissue, in fact, makes up the structure of all the vaginal walls. the g-spot is the inner concentration of nerve endings and the clitoris is the outer version.

the diagram is hard to read, from one link here, at least to me, but in basic evo bio it's clear the penis and vagina are variations on a theme. the penis responds to sensations up and down the shaft, not just at the head. if someone could put a finger inside the head of the penis, however, I think the idea of a g-spot would exist for males too.

and, for an experiment, have your partner put his or her finger inside your vagina while his or her other hand stimulates the clitoral "cap." (use lubricant and be soft and slow because the tissue is very sensitive... you're not trying to start a fire by rubbing two sticks together... you're trying gently wake up...sleeping beauty and give her a soft kiss.)

I think one problem for females is that the area is REALLY sensitive and if someone is too rough, thinking that the "fap" works... well, it just doesn't, at least not as a way to say hello to ms clitoris.

[jmowreader]

132. The "male G-spot" is the prostate

The female G spot exists. The reason some women THINK it doesn't is they've got a partner who doesn't know what the hell he is doing.

[RainDog]

134. yes

and there is more than one route to that aspect of male sexual happiness too.

as I said below, it tain't what you do, it's how you do the taint. (that's a dance, I think, or something.) anyway, that information is available for women to find out about online.

since I'm not a male, I cannot speak from that side of experience, but from what I've heard, it also provides a sort of rolling spasm of pleasure that, if it is allowed to ebb and flow... take a break, have a glass of wine, whatever... can help males gain a "long-view" of sexual acts.

a friend of mine refers to the perineum as the male clitoris.

[EndersDame]

23. The G Spot is not hard to find...IT IS THE CLITORIS !!Get it Guys?!?!?!!

Pay Attention to it!!!!!! And for god sakes use some fore play and last for more than five minutes... Sheesh,.,,\\\

[cbdo2007]

30. The g spot is farther in past the clitoris.

[RainDog]

39. the clitoris is on the outside and the g-spot is on the inside, behind the c. n/t

[Liquorice]

41. The clitoris extends well beyond what is on the outside. nt

[Jamastiene]

87. Right answer. n/t

[Schema Thing]

118. c. n/t ???can we say that here? ;-)

:+

[RainDog]

125. LOLOLOLOL. I didn't notice that till now. n/t

[TrogL]

31. No it's not - it's inside

About 5" back on the upper side.

[cbdo2007]

33. Not 5" in....only about 2-3" in because you can reach it with your fingers.

though I know that everybody is different so maybe 5" is correct in your experience.

[TrogL]

111. You're right - I was thinking in metric and flubbed the conversion

[TrogL]

143. I just measured and Craftygal's is about 3 1/2" back

*mutters "I am in sooooo much trouble" *

[CraftyGal]

145. to funny dear.....

luv ya!

[Capn Sunshine]

128. and if you can't, call a friend

[wordpix]

94. DUH +1---thank you for enlightening the guys who don't know!

[Capn Sunshine]

126. This is a trick question right?

I love your Doris, Lavoris

[HughMoran]

25. I would say it's more about patience

It takes patience on the part of both man and woman (and special positioning ;) )

[EFerrari]

26. Are you sure this isn't The Onion?

:rofl:

[liberal_at_heart]

27. They came to this conclusion from a few questionaires?

[asdjrocky]

28. I've had women swear they have one, and women that swear they don't.

I have to say it's always fun looking, either way.

[EndersDame]

34. I think that most women dont get off on just penetration

There are lots of ways to please us and its not a one size fits all game

[RainDog]

38. I think that depends

because some positions put a man closer to the g-spot, so to speak. like sideways or uh, rintintin.

or so I've heard :blush:

[peace frog]

60. WOOF!

:thumbsup:

[SpiralHawk]

61. "Depends?" is this now a republicon sex thread?

Then let me be unequivocal. No matter how often republicons have wide-stance extramarital diaper sex with hookers, they are still pathetic Latter Day Pharisee Losers.

[asdjrocky]

95. And here's something I've found a lot of women don't understand-

Guys get off on a lot more than just penetration.

(For the record, I'm fairly certain this is the first time I've used the words "get off" or "penetration" on DU.)

[RainDog]

32. bullshit

there absolutely is a "g-spot." women can find it for themselves. or her partner can. it is located behind the clitoris and the texture is different than other areas around it.

men have something similar in the concentration of nerves near the prostrate gland. women, if you want to make your man happy, it tain't what you do it's how you do the taint.

or so I've heard. :blush:

[RainDog]

36. oh, and you don't have to have surgery to have orgasms while driving down the road

or so I've heard. :blush:

but it helps if you're thinking happy thoughts...

[madamesilverspurs]

35. Damn,

hell of thing to find out I've been faking it all these years!!!


---

[rcrush]

37. "No the clitoris is real. Its the female orgasm thats the myth!"

Remember, folks... stimulation of the C.L.I.T is not recommended.

[uncle ray]

93. I AM THE C.L.I.T. COMMANDER!

[Capn Sunshine]

131. Jay demo's location of G Spot

[Liquorice]

40. What BS. The G-spot does exist and it's really just

part of the clitoris. Sadly, some women are not in touch with this aspect of their bodies, which is why some report it doesn't exist.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5013866.stm

[liberal_at_heart]

42. I agree women not knowing their own bodies is the reason for this

We are never told it is okay to explore our own bodies. Somehow probably through very restricive religion we have come to believe that exploring own body is dirty and shameful and selfish because your body should be used for procriation or for your husband's pleasure but God forbid you enjoy your own body or even know anything about you own body. I am in my thiries and have to admit am only now becoming aware of my body and becoming more able to tell my husband how to please me.

[Liquorice]

43. Yes I agree. It has to become more socially acceptable for women to enjoy their own sexuality. nt

[Echo In Light]

70. Absolutely, although many need to discern sexual liberation from sexual exploitation

... going by the value$ and appearance of the mainstream Corp culture these days, anyhow. Parody often masquerades as reality this day and age

[JCMach1]

48. Ummm... many of us are more sensitive in certain areas...

But that can vary wildly...

Who knows, maybe it's biological, but not genetic.

[safeinOhio]

51. Seems the G-spot is an art

not a science.

[Echo In Light]

66. +1 . . . yes, requiring different strokes, and even alternative routes, for different folks

;)

[shadowknows69]

83. Come on smut brains. It's a Sunday for Gods sake.

Where's my wife?

[valerief]

52. Gee, I knew dat! nt

[That Is Quite Enough]

54. Hm. Interesting, to say the least.

[juno jones]

55. It exists.

It is intense, but it is elusive.

I don't know how to say more.

PS: Studying twins would do no good, it was an experienced partner that turned me on to mine. Would twins have the same sexual partners? Would they want to? Are twins in our society comparing notes about orgasmic response? Bullshit.

Sorry for the twins in crappy sexual relationships.

[donco]

56. We’ll have to get the crack onion crew investigating this story. nt

[Bucky]

63. I've never heard it called the "crack onion" before.

It's kind of an unromantic turn of phrase, although not entirely inaccurate.

[ohheckyeah]

59. I call bullshit.

It exists...Thank God.

[Bucky]

62. Dammit, and just when I was startin' to get the hang of this foreplay deal.

I can't even begin to think about all that wasted time I could've spent reading comic books instead.

[Maine-ah]

64. It exists.

:evilgrin:

[peacefreak]

65. Damn. Just, damn.

Does that mean I have to give mine back?

[Mari333]

69. Um NOOOOOOOOOO

LASER Vaginal Rejuvenation Institute


http://www.drmatlock.com/

EWWWW.

His name is Matlock. All I can think of is Andy Griffith sneering at me while holding a laser.

Lasering vayjays and bleaching their bumpkis holes.

Its in L.A.

of course.

[Toasterlad]

71. BRITISH Scientists?

British scientists doing a study on sex is like French scientists doing a study on hygiene! Am I right, ladies and gentlemen? Meanwhile, I know MY wife has a G-spot...it's in my back right pocket. I call it my wallet!

Thank you, I'll be here all week!

[sendero]

72. Nonsense.

... and if you are a hetero man and you haven't found your lover's, you need to get busy!

[cherish44]

73. Way to be a buzzkill Matlock

As a woman I can say, I have a "tingly zone". It's not easy to find but when found...BOOOYAH!!


oh and IBTL !

[RainDog]

76. booyah indeed.

and ahhhhh and ooooh and yessss and mmmmm and... see you all later...

[shadowknows69]

82. Is it getting warm in here? Where's my wife?

[Bunny]

74. What a crock.

Of course it exists, and the man who knows how to find it is a good man, indeed.

[Kansas Wyatt]

88. A Tallywhacker...

That curves up helps a lot too.

:yoiks:

[Enthusiast]

77. Apparently women differ in

this important area. IMHO, there is an inside area very sensitive to stimulation that causes a quick and easy powerful orgasm, at least in my SO.

[comtec]

79. LOL Quick is not a word i'd use...

That may just be my partner.
But powerful is definitely one that should be used!
Loud, is also another descriptor :)
:blush:
Turns out i've been going the right place, but at the wrong time for years >.>
Causing orgasms has never been a problem, but finding that damned G-spot has been!

But once we found it... damn!

It could be that a lot of these women just need more, longer, stimulation.

[Enthusiast]

84. That's what I mean.

Women are different, there must be huge variation. My SO orgasms are very quick and easy, as easy and predictable as mine. This makes my life much better.

[arcadian]

78. God:

[shadowknows69]

80. So they HAVE all been faking it!!!

B-)

[peekaloo]

81. What would a tight ass know about g-spots?

[Echo In Light]

102. Actually, hers, not his, might...

Read into that what you will :)

[peekaloo]

103. BWAH

:D

[Jamastiene]

85. I want the David Matlock surgery then.

:evilgrin:

:popcorn:

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

89. Netflix Kama Sutra position #50.

Work up to both legs drapped over thou. Finds it every time.
nuff said.

[Sal Minella]

98. WHOSE legs??? Draped over WHAT???

Can you be more specific, ferpetesake???

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

99. Laughing here.

The womans legs. Draped over the mans shoulders. Takes some flexibility. Work up to it.

[RainDog]

104. bzzzzz! correct!

and someone can use pillows under said woman's behind to elevate. said man should be on his knees. it doesn't require that much flexibility. said man can take said knees of said legs by said man's elbows to increase contact between planet earth(s).

of so I've heard.

happy loving to all and to all a good night.

[RainDog]

105. bzzzzz! correct!

and someone can use pillows under said woman's behind to elevate. said man should be on his knees. it doesn't require that much flexibility. said man can take said knees of said legs by said man's elbows to increase contact between planet earth(s).

of so I've heard.

happy loving to all and to all a good night.

[RainDog]

106. lol. that was enthusiastic, huh?

my computer hiccuped.

[Sal Minella]

109. Wow.

Just recently I've been dating an old boyfriend from 1958 so this may take awhile, but I'm sure it will be worth it . . .

I'll let you know how it goes . . . :)

Thanks for the clarification!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

115. You go girl!!

woooohooooo!!

[Schema Thing]

127. not sure I've ever been with a woman who *didn't* have that flexibility

I mean, how you gonna kiss her toes w/o.... ;-D

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

144. I do believe you've missed the boat.

it's not oral talking here. nuff said.

[Schema Thing]

150. nah, I'm not talking about oral

I think I understand the position you're talking about. Does it really take all that much flexibility?

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

156. Depends upon your age.

Good Luck to you. Enjoy Life.

[Botany]

90. What is next? No tain't?

But I will never stop looking.

[tallahasseedem]

91. Oh, it's there...

and is often found more than once during a "journey", even if I'm by myself. LOL! Now if you will excuse me...

[JonQ]

92. Must have been a fun study to conduct

[alfredo]

96. Oh, that's why she kept driving over the rumble strips!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30StTQAUPtg&feature=related

[Ron Green]

107. Here's a bad joke: Why do women fake orgasms?

Because they think men care.









:hide:

[SidDithers]

108. A sex thread? On my DU?...

:)

Sid

[LostInAnomie]

110. The Female Orgasm is a myth!!

I sure as hell haven't seen one!

[TrogL]

113. You're pushing 30(*) - isn't it about time you got laid?

*found on your facebook page in you profile

[LostInAnomie]

124. Haha... who said I never got laid.

Maybe I'm just really selfish or horrible in the sack.

[rug]

112. Thank God, I can relax now.

[EOTE]

114. What a ridiculously stupid study.

Perhaps if one wanted to argue as to what the specific definition of the g-spot is, that would be something, but to argue about the existence of something that by all objective accounts exists is way past boneheaded. All women have a Skene's gland and it's not all that difficult to find. It seems to me that this scientist took the myth of all men being completely flummoxed by female anatomy as the origins of this study and the results bear that out. Sometimes I'm at a loss for words.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland

[NoSheep]

120. Thank you.

[aikoaiko]

116. More research is needed.

:)

[NoSheep]

119. Leave it to a man to tell me I'm imagining the orgasms I'm having.

This is infuriating, really. In a society such as our own...where human sexuality is mediated by people who basically believe in Santa Claus, you better well bet there are women who don't know where their damn G-Spot is.

[RainDog]

123. which is why this is not a sex thread but is information sharing, instead

because, yes, if there are women who haven't taken the time to find out what gives them pleasure ON THEIR OWN, they need to do that, too.

we're all in charge of our own sexual happiness, ultimately.

[Capn Sunshine]

121. I've heard it shows up on a Rapiscan

if the mood is right

[AspenRose]

133. OK, that was funny

:-)

[Jim Sagle]

122. What else is there to say?

[tonysam]

129. It was a hoax peddled by writers years ago

to make money, 1982 to be exact. The writers made tons of money off of people's ignorance of physiology.

What else is new?

[flvegan]

130. This thread is awesome.

[Sapphocrat]

135. Bullshit.

Trust me.

Btw, I love that these men are denying the existence of the G-spot. I'd also love to see some female "experts" claim there's no sexual pleasure to be found via the prostate gland, either.

Either these women haven't found theirs yet, or these researchers are too lazy to find their partners'.

This is also quite telling:

"This weekend (Beverly Whipple, emeritus professor at Rutgers University) dismissed the findings of the British study as 'flawed', saying the researchers had discounted the experiences of lesbian or bisexual women and failed to consider the effects of different sexual technique."

[lightningandsnow]

146. This.

[yawnmaster]

136. A G spot named El Dorado. eom

[Lil Missy]

137. Balony! G-Spot is NOT a myth.

[jillan]

139. Can anybody tell me how to get ahold of David Matlock? There are

lots of bumps to drive over around here :evilgrin:

[old mark]

141. I might be too old to cut the mustard, but

I can still lick the jar.



mark

[Odin2005]

142. Must be the same nimrods that think female ejaculation is a myth.

I'm a guy, so I don't have any personal experience on the matter, but as an autistic person this kind of BS seems to be exactly the same kind of dismissive attitude that leads to neuroscience preferring their pet theories to what autistic people say their reality is like. In the same way these morons are telling women that their reality is a hallucination.

[Capn Sunshine]

147. This Thread Is Useless without pictures

for the less informed of course

[FourScore]

152. And video. I DEMAND video evidence. n/t

[AngryAmish]

148. I don't have one

[TK421]

149. I just heard a car screech to a halt outside my window...should I go look?

:scared:

[guitar man]

151. Bullshit

It's there, trust me, I know how to find it :evilgrin:

[dustbunnie]

154. Sort of like curling and uncurling a finger and saying "come here" in a visual kind of way?

:)

[guitar man]

155. something like that

:P

[undeterred]

153. Next they'll be telling us that Santa Claus isn't real.