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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:22 AM
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$2.5 M for Rick Warren's male-supremacist, homophobic church . . .!!
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 11:22 AM by defendandprotect
Calif. pastor takes in $2.4M after donations plea
Sun Jan 3, 7:40 am ET

LAKE FOREST, Calif. – Evangelical pastor Rick Warren's plea for donations to fill a $900,000 deficit at his Southern California megachurch brought in $2.4 million, Warren announced to cheers during a sermon at the church on Saturday.

Warren said the amount raised after the appeal was posted online Wednesday included only money parishioners brought in person to Saddleback Church by New Year's Eve. More was arriving by hand and by mail, he said.

"This is pretty amazing," said Warren, who made the announcement by bringing out 24 volunteers each holding a sign for $100,000. "I don't think any church has gotten a cash offering like that off a letter."

The pastor said he planned to talk about what he called his church's "radical generosity" in the rest of the weekend's sermons. He said the total came from members, and the donations were all under $100.

"We're starting the new decade with a surplus," he said. "It came from thousands of ordinary people. This was not one big fat cat."

The posting on Warren's Web site read: "With 10 percent of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated."

Warren said the church had largely managed to stay within its budget during the year, but "the bottom dropped out" when Christmas donations were down.

The letter cited the church's accomplishments in 2009 and detailed how the donations would be used, including the church's food pantry, homeless ministry, counseling and support groups.

Warren made similar pleas after Hurricane Katrina and the 2004 Asian tsunami, raising $1.7 million and $1.6 million from Saddleback parishioners.

Warren is the author of numerous books, including the best-selling "The Purpose Driven Life." He was named the top newsmaker of the year for 2009 by the Religion Newswriters Association, gaining attention with his invocation at the inauguration of President Barack Obama and comments in the aftermath of California's Proposition 8, which overturned gay marriage.

He founded Saddleback Church in 1980 in Lake Forest, about 65 miles southeast of Los Angeles.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100103/ap_on_re_us/us_rick_warren_donations



As George Carlin frequently noted ... "god always needs money" --

And presumably we're also now subsidizing Warren's "faith based" organizations?

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:26 AM
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1. Folks are unrecommeding this because he's the president's friend. nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:33 AM
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2. Really . . . ??? How desperate a need to excape reality -- !!!
I was actually wondering how many people may be giving money to this

church because Warren was invited to the Inauguration!!??

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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:34 AM
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3. Oh, nonsense
They are unrecommending it because Warren is an fraud, a leech who will suck the last drop of blood out of a stone.


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:00 PM
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9. So exposing how powerful he is and how many folks are giving him money is bad?
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 04:48 PM
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21. No, you misunderstand
It is because he sucks money out of people, for no other reason.


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 03:55 PM
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18. .... but, nonetheless, highly respected if not beloved of Obama administration????
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 04:50 PM
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22. Where do you get that?
What gave you the idea that he is "highly respected if not beloved of Obama administration" ???

:banghead:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 08:32 PM
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27. Was he one of the primary opening acts of the Inauguration Ceremony . ..???
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:35 AM
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:00 PM
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10. I didn't know that. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:07 PM
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 09:39 PM
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28. People unrecommend this cause there fools
They unrecommend because there against Warrenfool getting that money. I think it's totally stupid that people
are giving money to that fool but unrecommending an article that's just stating facts is misguided at best.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:03 AM
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35. Son of an English Teacher here...
...and I hate to be a grammar jerk....but...

'There' and 'They're' are completely different. If you had only used it once, I would not have stepped in and been all pedantic.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:06 PM
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52. get a life
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:12 PM
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53. No, get a dictionary.
I thought it made you look ridiculous too.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:06 AM
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37. oh come on,i think everyone here thinks warren is a creep
;)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:35 AM
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4. And DUers think they represent the majority opinion in the US
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:09 PM
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13. I Doubt Many DUers Think That
Speaking for myself, I know just how many homophobic assholes live in this country.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 03:59 PM
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20. +100000000000000000
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:48 AM
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32. A nation full of Christians who are full of hate and would rather give thier money to a
charlatan than give a homeless man on the street a dollar.


Man, was yesterdays Birds game painful to watch or what. Hope we get our shit together for
Saturay night.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:01 AM
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34. I'm Certainly Worried, But I Think We'll Pull It Out.
I just don't see losing to the Cowboys three games in a row. And if anyone's as big a choker as Donovan McNabb, it's Tony Romo.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:48 AM
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:39 AM
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6. If they use it to feed, clothe and house the needy then this is a good thing
they are more likely to use it to take rights away from other people though.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:52 AM
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7. pride in the name of ego and greed, a hallmark of the breed nt
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:53 AM
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8. That is the reality; this is the country we live in.
Religious wacko-land
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:31 PM
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25. Yep..it's very scary.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:05 PM
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11. Please Don't Give This Asshole Publicity.
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 12:08 PM by Toasterlad
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 03:58 PM
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19. Why would you FEAR letting people know the immorality of homophobia...
and male-supremacist religions???

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 12:35 AM
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29. I FEAR Validating Hateful Religious Bigotry By Letting People Know There Are Enough Idiots Out There
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 12:35 AM by Toasterlad
to donate 2.4 million dollars to this asshole.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:38 AM
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30. And Obama and his administration didn't "VALIDATE" this "hateful religious bigot"....??????
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 09:38 AM by defendandprotect
Again -- IMO, some of those who now trust this church and have sent money to it

may be people who think it "worthy" in some manner BECAUSE the Obama administration

gave Pastor Rick Warren a place of honor during the Inauguration ceremonies?

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:04 AM
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36. No, We Are On the Same Page As Far As That Goes.
However, nothing can change what happened at the inauguration. But I think the best thing to do know is to refrain from giving Warren any positive press at all. Posting that he's actually succeeding in fleecing his stupid flock can't do anything but encourage people to take him seriously.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:19 PM
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39. This isn't "positive press" . . . it's intended to make people think . . .
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 01:21 PM by defendandprotect
about religion -- especially as male-supremacist activity -- and, of course,

Rick Warren's vile homophobia!!

AND, keep in mind that many DU'ers weren't especially ruffled that Obama picked

this bigot for his Inauguration Ceremony!



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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:25 PM
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40. I Get What You're Trying To Do, I Just Disagree With How You're Doing It.
If you have evidence of Warren's bigotry, please post it. But posting an article about how he just received $2.4 million and commenting about what a homophobic bastard he is isn't proof.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:32 PM
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41. The People would like to introduce into evidence Exhibit A
http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2008/12/Rick-Warren-Transcript.aspx?p=7

(Warren) ...I’m opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I’m opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I’m opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.

(interviewer) Do you think those are equivalent to gays getting married?

(Warren) Oh, I do....
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:38 PM
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45. That's Absolutely the Kind of Post I'd Like to See.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:43 PM
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47. Here's some more . . . Warren: "Gay people are immature" . . . !!

Warren: Gay people are immature.
Today, NBC’s Ann Curry aired a new portion of her recent interview with pastor Rick Warren, whom President-elect Obama selected to deliver the invocation at his inauguration. During the interview, Warren said that “it doesn’t matter” whether or not homosexuality is “part of your biology”; it’s still wrong. Attempting to explain himself, he compared accepting one’s homosexuality to being “naturally inclined to have sex with every beautiful woman I see.” Resisting homosexuality is about “maturity,” he concluded:

CURRY: If science finds that this is biological, indisputably…would you change your position?

WARREN: No. … We all have biological predispositions. … You say because I have natural impulses to the same sex, I shouldn’t have to reign them in. Well I disagree. I think that’s part of maturity, I think that’s part of delayed gratification, I think that’s part of character.

Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/19/warren-gay-maturity/
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:34 PM
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42. Whaat??? You don't think homophobia is "bigotry" . . . ?? Whaat???
I think you've got your hands over your eyes and ears and are trying to waste our time!

Bye --

:evilgrin:
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:39 PM
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46. You're Not Listening To What I'm Saying.
Have a nice day.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:45 PM
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48. Let's see . . .
First of all, you allegedly protested because it gave him publicity --

and showed how many idiots supported him.

Now you don't think there's proof that he's homophobic --

I think I see --

Bye --

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:57 PM
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49. No, You Don't See. But I'll Try One More Time, And Then I'm Done.
There is plenty of proof that Warren is homophobic, but there is NO proof in what you posted. All you posted was an article about Warren receiving $2.4 million, with a subject line of OPINION by yourself about what a homophobic asshole he is.

PROOF is a post like #41, which refers directly to his homophobia and features an actual homophobic quote.

I'm honestly sorry I said anything. Lord knows your relatively harmless post wasn't worth all this fuss. That's not an insult; that's me saying that I shouldn't have gotten involved.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:02 PM
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50. Agree --
But presumably you are now aware as most here are of Warren's homophobia --

Well, that's at least a bit of an advance --

Bye --

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:09 PM
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14. pretty sad
:puke:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:12 PM
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15. Obama chose Rick Warren to give the invocation at his Inaugural
That act said a lot about what was to come in terms of broken promises and betrayals to LGBTs.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:26 PM
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23. This man is pure evil.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:29 PM
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24. But it's only ONE prayer!!!!!
:sarcasm:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:32 PM
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26. That's 2.4 million shuffled from ignorant rightwingers to Warren's pocket.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:43 AM
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31. How big is Rick Warren's house?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:36 PM
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43. It's always the same . . . RICH CHURCH . . . POOR PEOPLE ...
:evilgrin:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 10:11 AM
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38. Top religious newsmaker, due to Inaugural and homophobia
Great.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:38 PM
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44. Sad that there are that many stupid people in your country...
No wonder your health-care reform is so half-assed./
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:14 PM
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51. makes me wonder
how much will end up funding the homo haters in Africa? He may deny it, but would you believe someone like Rick Warren?
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