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maynard Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:30 PM
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Explosives on Detroit flight
Did the knucklehead with the explosive underpants have enough explosives to actually bring down an airplane?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:34 PM
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1. According to reports yes..
But I was reading the Daily Mail yesterday and they said the "device" was actually 2 chemicals that explode when mixed together. One in a bag in his crotch and the other in a syringe he used to inject into the bag.

My question is this. How in the fuck did he fail? If this was a chemical process there should have been no way to fail. Between this and the missing camera I'm starting to wonder about this whole incident.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:35 PM
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2. It's supposed to scare us so that we'll support (pick a ME country) war. nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:45 PM
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4. The explosive PETN requires a blasting cap to detonate, not chemical compounds
that is why he only burned his balls off. Poor dumb martyr wanna be-
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:01 PM
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7. LMAO... thanks
So we are spending billions to fight... morons.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:06 PM
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8. Apparently they've gotten really stupid since they killed all the #2s
At this point I assume they're scraping the bottom of the barrel for leaders.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:22 PM
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9. That's one conclusion
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 02:22 PM by Moochy
It also might have been possible that whoever sent him did so knowing it would not actually explode.

Which leads me to more speculation about why someone would want that outcome.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:29 PM
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10. I hope you understand that my statement was facitious.
But yeah, this attempt was done so incompetently it's almost humorous.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:44 PM
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11. I was not 100% sure... thanks for clarifying
Some around here seem to think that the 'War on Terra' is highly effective and proceeding brilliantly :patriot:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:38 PM
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3. according to reports, yes. what he didn't have was a blasting cap
he might have brought the plane down by setting it on fire, but it never would have exploded from the "bomb" he had in his tighty whiteys
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:46 PM
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5. A 50 gram bomb of pentaerythritol tetranitrate would blow a hole in an airliner.
It's in the same class of explosives as nitroglycerin.

His bomb was 80 grams.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:52 PM
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6. Good thing for everyone that whoever sent him
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 02:48 PM by Moochy
did not know the basics about this class of explosives, huh? seems fishy.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:45 PM
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13. You are assuming that what happened was not the desired outcome.
This is twice now. A google search is all that is needed and you are assuming the 'master mind' behind this couldn't figurer things out to get a real explosion?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:53 PM
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14. I think whoever sent him knew it was not going off
I was just unclear, I'm skeptical that some terror network would send someone on a plane with this setup, without knowing about how to trigger it. Therefore It seems this was the desired outcome, more terror alerts and reactions.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:45 PM
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12. Pretty much any passenger has the ability to bring down an aircraft.
With out explosives.
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