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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:28 PM
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Egypt court upholds exam veil ban
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 05:29 PM by demoleft
Source: al jazeera

A court in Egypt has ruled in favour of the government's decision to ban students from wearing the face veil (niqab) while taking university examinations.

But female students who had appealed the ban when it was originally imposed by the government last October have vowed to appeal the verdict.
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"It forces a woman to expose part of her body she doesn't want exposed. It is soul-crushing for these women," he told Al Jazeera.

The government said it banned the niqab in part because students, male and female, were attending exams disguised as other candidates by wearing a face veil.


Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/01/201013195657854466.html



controversial.
i'm against any ban so i'd give them the chance to do according to free will. though i understand the "practical" reason of universitary institutions.

the position of the students appears just an alibi, instrumental. they might wear the niqab according to their religious education and just take it off for a minute in front of professors to check the identity.
i do not think this is any threat or physically harassing.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:33 PM
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1. What's "soul crushing" is indoctrinating little girls with a misogynist religion
that makes them hate their own bodies.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:40 PM
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3. Huh, I essentially wear clothing that covers virtually all of me, simply
because I'm tired of being hassled. So I don't know that it has that much to do with hating one's body. I think my body is great, particularly for a 50yo, apparently so do many other of the opposite sex.

That being said, I would've hated not having the opportunity when I was younger to flaunt and enjoy the "rewards," though, like the rewards of candy and ice cream, I determined after a while the overall cost was greater than the short term thrill.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:35 PM
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2. Hmmm! Which is worse,exposure of the face or cheating on an exam?
The cheating would bother me more.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:41 PM
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4. I agree with where I think you're suggesting, perhaps it can be
resolved by a brief peek under the veil then basically anyone who leaves cannot be let back in during the exams.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:44 PM
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6. it sounds reasonable indeed. but the students who oppose it...
...are clearly moving the matter to another ground - the freedom of religion.
i hope the laicism prevails here.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:48 PM
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7. Sounds like your idea is a good compromise between the two,
I suppose they could fingerprint if the women really don't want to remove veils, or some other similar thing, but then they'd have to agree to be fingerprinted and those registered for the class(es). The pressure screen finger printers are pretty quick when searching through small databases as a classroom might have.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:43 PM
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5. Solution
Separate exam areas according to sex and give the exam with same sex proctors.

Women aren't required to wear the niqab among other women, only among unrelated men.

Why doesn't stunningly simple stuff like this occur to them?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:08 PM
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9. would the guy in the Burka please leave the room........
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:01 PM
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10. We have a winner. nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:42 PM
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11. Or proclaim that while in the room all are related.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:58 PM
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8. what if they get a different room with only females
including only female administrators for those who don't want any men to see them ?
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