Why are the various and sundry security/intel people STILL not sharing info? What do we do about it?

[Stinky The Clown]

It seems to me totally illogical that the Obama administration has much culpability apart from being in charge when the Scrotum Bomber. This is the Bush intel service and the Bush security experts and the Bush DHS and the Bush TSA and the Bush bureaucracy.

However, from this point forward, it is the Obama administration's issue.

What do you think we ought to be doing from here on out?

[Common Sense Party]

1. Watch out, though. Along that line of reasoning, Chimpy had no

culpability for 9/11. It was Clinton's CIA, Clinton's FBI, Clinton's NSA,etc., etc.,

You don't really think Bush was innocent when it came to 9/11, do you? I don't.

[JuniperLea]

4. I understand some RWingNuts are spewing on and on about how...

Bush inherited a recession, horrible job numbers, AND 9/11 from Clinton... idiots.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. The essential difference is the August 6 PDB.

Without need for any conspiracy theory whatever, one can cite the fact that the Bushies had a formal report that predicted 9/11 IN ITS FUCKING TITLE!

The (ok, Clinton's) system worked. The Bushies fucked up, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

By the way, if it was Clinton's Recession, then it was also Clinton's military that put Chimpy on that carrier in that flight suit, claiming victory.

[Common Sense Party]

10. Well, the NSA wasn't talking to the FBI, even though they had been

tracking a couple of the Saudis and listening to their phone calls for months. That part of the system didn't work.

[JuniperLea]

2. BushCo blamed a lot of 9/11 response screw-ups on the lack of communication...

Between the FBI and the CIA, but apparently did nothing about it in the seven years that followed. I think they wanted it that way. I think it will be hard to break down the barriers past presidents have counted on being there.

The bright light of correctness has been shown on this issue, so IMHO, Obama better do something. This is a security issue and needs to come first.

[Common Sense Party]

8. The entire creation of the Dep't of Homeland Security was intended

to force cooperation and communication among the various agencies.

Since that obviously hasn't happened, I think DHS should be eliminated.

[Warpy]

3. I think every administration probably going back to Washington

has had to cope with law enforcement turf wars, where they preserve their little bailiwicks by never sharing information and potentially allowing someone else to make the collar. While this was a nuisance when Macy's never told Gimbel's, it could conceivably turn deadly now.

Every attempt to erect a bigger umbrella over more agencies has duplicated services nicely but little gets filtered through the main office and the little Napoleons still won't talk to each other.

Other than tracing down who held information and didn't share it and charging them with some sort of crime if that information could have prevented a tragedy, I don't know what they can do. Little dictatorship is human nature, especially in power jobs like law enforcement.

This is how future bombers are going to slip through the cracks and there isn't a damned thing we can do about it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. This is the nature of US Law Enforcement and part of the culture

it is the local, vs, state, vs feds, vs, everybody. It is also jurisdictional issues. And you know what it is not the US... Actually the US is a smaller problem than if you oh look south of the border... while we have a few local agencies and a few state and a few federal... the alphabet soup for police would make your head explode just for Mexico City.

How you make them share? Partly what they did down there when they created the Federal Police, which essentially created a new culture form the bottom up. In some ways that is what would be required in the US, and it will not be effective 100%. Some folks will just protect their local neck of the woods regardless. Hell, some FBI agents protect their local office against higher ups.

[ThomWV]

6. Eliminate funding for any agency not sharing fully.

If they aren't sharing it with anyone then it has no value to the American people and we should not be paying for it.

[blm]

7. Because BushInc only saw terrorism as a helpful tool for the fascist agenda - why do you think Poppy

and his pals nurtured many of the earlier global terror networks throughout the 80s and 90s in the first place?

There was no need for Bush2 to be concerned about real terrorism as long as Poppy and his cronies were calling the shots in that region behind the scenes. (ala AQ Khan-BFEE)