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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:13 PM
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Obama was wrong?
For bailing out the US automotive industry. Ha!
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?symbol=f
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:15 PM
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1. He didn't give ford a cent
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 12:15 PM by madokie
loaned the other two some but give them NO
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:20 PM
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3. This. GM stocks which did get a bailout didnt do so well from what I recall
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:46 PM
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18. GM doesn't have stock anymore. The ticker is MTLQQ for Motors Liquidation Company
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:13 PM
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21. So what happened to all those people that owned GM stock?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:16 PM
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22. According to the NY Times, it is worthless.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:53 PM
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24. They lost their money.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:10 PM
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26. They took delivery of a nice big shit sandwich
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:23 PM
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5. Yeah, seems like Ford's leadership...
...saw this coming. Ford took steps, and has emerged stronger. When GM & Chrysler were hat in hand, Ford was saying: "ya know, we don't think we'll need it, but the money COULD come in handy - set it aside just in case we're wrong."
So far, they're not wrong...
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:00 PM
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20. Whats helped ford as much as anything was when they made the decision
a couple decades ago to really improve their product. We have two '98 model fords, pickup and suv, that each have around 130,000 miles on them and cleaned up they still look like new. Still run that way, hardly any maintenance on either of them. On the pickup I'm still on the original brake pads and I've pulled a lot of trailers and hauled a bunch of heavy loads with it too. No tears in the seats or worn spots or any of that, no sagging doors or springs just all around just like they were when they were new 10 years ago, actually closer to 11 years. That ole bull about japan or europe builds a better vehicle is bull crap.

For instance check out what ford did with the jaguar while they owned it and what they've done with the volvo brand that they still own, both of which quality of the vehicles went up big time with fords acquisition. Jaguar is gone now and Volvo is on the chopping block but they are much improved from their time of ford ownership.

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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:45 PM
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23. yes indeed - and their designs are catching up.
I remember Jaguars' quality jumping thru the roof after Ford started on them - didn't know about Volvo.
And now the design is getting up there too - the Fusion has been up there on a LOT of top 10 lists, and the Fusion Hybrid is getting raves everywhere.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:18 PM
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2. Another win for the President
This is a big FU to the haters
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:21 PM
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4. Sorry to burst your bubble. Ford didn't take a cent. nt
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:24 PM
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6. The Ford stock is doing great
The President knew that they did not need assistance and could turn the company around without it. Obama and his economic team had the foresight to see that Ford was going to do well in the next few quarters.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:26 PM
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8. uh huh, right. run with that.
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 12:54 PM by Javaman
:eyes:

Ford turned down an offered bailout. Trying to create a reality were the TARP team were some sort of group of financial genuis's is laughable. Do you even pay attention to the news or do enjoy making stuff up?

Ford Bailout Money Unnecessary, Company Says
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/10/ford-bailout-money-unnece_n_149824.html

Ford Bailout Refusal A Hit
http://www.swtimes.com/articles/2009/07/18/news/news071809_02.txt

I can provide you with a host of links if you like, but I think you get the point.

research, it's the latest fad.

Oh and I would return your pom poms, they are set to bizarre.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:26 PM
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9. Thus, using Ford as a barometer of the success of the bailout
is nonsense.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:27 PM
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12. Sarcasm?
This is one ofthe funniest cheerlead threads in a long time
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:25 PM
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7. You got that right Don
Look at the haters showing up on this thread. Kudos to Barack Hussein Obama.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:26 PM
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10. Sorry, but you've failed the Turing test.
Thanks for playing.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:27 PM
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11. LOL
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:29 PM
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13. I am man, not machine
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:30 PM
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14. Prove it.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:37 PM
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15. K & R - Best Cheerleading thread ever!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:40 PM
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16. I also gave it a rec.
Pretzel logic is fascinating to behold.

He gave them money and look how great they're doing now! An excellent decision!
Oh, he didn't give them money? Well look how great it turned out! An excellent decision!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:56 PM
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19. Rec'd and bookmarked.
This one's gonna provide giggles for a while. :rofl:
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:58 PM
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25. Wait, he game money to GM and anyone that owned GM stock is now shit out of luck?
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 01:58 PM by no limit
I gave a unrec personally, my sense of humor isn't as good I guess. And we all know how sacred the greatest page is.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:40 PM
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17. I've been told that Obama
took over the auto industry. Took complete socialistic control and now runs every aspect of the industry. They are now only building small electric cars that the public isn't buying and dumped all trucks and SUVs. Then he closed all the dealerships in red states.

:sarcasm:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 03:14 PM
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27. This just in: Obama credited for Boise State's 14-0 win in Fiesta Bowl
:rofl:
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:30 PM
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28. Do you morons
Really think that saving GM and Chrysler has nothing to do with Fords success? Silly morons.
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