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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:34 PM Original message |
Just a profound sense of loss and betrayal. |
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WT Fuheck (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. given the tragedy that is the status quo, |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Personally, I'm getting tired of being mad, so I've decided |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. So you're going to pretend it isn't happening? Be happy? |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. You have more stamina than I do. nt |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. I'm with you. Worrying changes NOTHING. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
97. Deleted sub-thread |
Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Social upheavel may be just what the doctor ordered. It's been awhile. |
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Knight Hawk (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. A little problem |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. agree. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Hey, a couple of notes |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
60. It's a real possibility that the upheaval will come from the right... |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
73. Well, that's the thing with upheaval - once it starts, it runs the show. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. The social upheavel is more likely to follow the Shock Doctrine unless we can get informed and stop |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
78. It's likely to be the wrong kind of social upheaval |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. The economic upheaval has been happening for decades |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. Yes, we need to demonstrate supremacy of the People |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. From "Land Shark" |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Thanks this was a surprise - just saw it after I posted #16 below. (providing more detail on this) |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
77. Really? How come mine has lasted for twenty years? |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. If Obama has a tendency to avoid conflict, then any true social upheaval could be |
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Knight Hawk (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Russian Proverbs |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. Deleted message |
EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. +100,000,000 outstanding article. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. +100,000,001! |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
36. 'We stand on the cusp of one of the most seismic and disturbing dislocations in human history....' |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
76. Wow...I gotta bookmark this. nt |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Great read. Deserves a thread of it's own. Add the underwear would be bomber |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. I'm really dejected that this is the world I've grown up to inherit |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. And I am really sorry for leaving you a world like this. |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 04:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. I understand what you are feeling because my three children and |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. very good idea goldstein..to assemble your writings |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I see the same thing |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. so many are addicted to those reality TV shows |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I have a little hope where by grandchildren are concerned |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Good for her! |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Obviously, a common pattern |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
10. " Oh, yes, and we’re fighting two wars." |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. K&R......Feeling betrayed is justified...But now it's time to FIGHT LIKE HELL : |
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Amliss Vess (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I am tired |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
85. yes |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. Is that what it is? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. Why so bummed? The Obamas will come out of this just fine. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
15. Thank you |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. Doom and Gloom = ENERGY TO CHANGE. Let's not be so "depressed" we can't help steer this energy |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
20. K & R.....you are not alone my friend... |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
22. I feel the same sense of loss, but I refuse to cross the line to |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
24. K&R. Herbert's piece is profound and profoundly sad. Should be read by all. The Chris Hedges essay |
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waronbanks (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
25. I simply cannot believe what I see anymore |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
29. I just consider this to probably be . . . |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
31. Your last sentence sums up our danger and it is very real. |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. getting in the streets, en masse, is the only answer...people will |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
34. I share your sense of loss and betrayal |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
35. I feel lied to and betrayed. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Same here n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. As do I. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
86. I'm with you. Sad. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
37. K&R To our leaders, a long range plan |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
38. Your despair is not shared by those in power. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. You hit the nail on the head. |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
39. I've been commenting on what has happened and what can be done |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
40. Gardening... |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Gardening...... I love it! |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. I agree that gardening is THE BEST stress reliever |
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HERVEPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I vote for dancing as the stress reliever |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-07-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
105. I agree..... Dance, Dance, Dance.... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
41. This is what happens as Capitalism 'matures', |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
42. Your quote about jobs not improving since 1999 struck home! Thom Hartmann spoke on this yesterday.. |
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Ticonderoga (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
94. K&R +1 |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. K&R (n/t) |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. I Stand Here Right Along With You!! We Probably All Know WHY This Is |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
47. I hear ya, buddy; I'm feeling it too. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. You just need to look on the bright side. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
52. Next comes anger, then awaremess and action. |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
54. What worries me most, though, is |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. We're beseiged with "leaders" who are bought and paid for. Without election reform |
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havbrush (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
61. Sense of loss and betrayal also |
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Tigermoose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
63. Man-up |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R. |
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shadesofgray (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
67. K&R |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
69. This Administration is not only escalating the war in Afghanistan |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Oh man, I'm with you on this. |
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havbrush (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Infrastructure repairs |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Wow, that is one heady post. |
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stillwaiting (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #72 |
100. They were not interrupted by Clinton. Or Obama. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
70. K & R |
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whatacountry09 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
79. Just a profound sense of loss and betrayal. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
80. I think If I didn't have my mother to to help out I would move to Canada |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
81. As I said before on another post...It's just a profound sense of sadness of what could have been.... |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
82. FDR saved capitalism from itself |
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Ticonderoga (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. I'm all in.......for the people n/t |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
84. 'Should have stuck with my original feeling about him. Blech. |
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Captain_Blue (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
87. Hope of Change |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. It will be each and every one of us out here in America, in cities, towns and countryside. |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-07-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #91 |
104. you're right, but the general strike should recognize |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
88. the GOP obstructionists are to blame and whining won't fix it |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. "what a pack of whiners" |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-07-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #89 |
101. yeah really, the modern KKK has 1000 radio stations and they sell lobbyist talking points |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-07-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Sounds like you have Lowered your Expectations |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-07-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. i'm a realist who realizes that much of the left evaluates and strategizes in a |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
90. Bob Herbert's column was superb. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
92. ... but wasn't that always the way it has been . . . what of African-Americans trying |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
93. Don't let the mega-corporations win! NEVER SURRENDER!! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
95. you are so right on in what you have just said. We have to fight the entropy to |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-06-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
96. I guess you'll just have to give up |
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