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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:13 AM Original message |
Senator Hillary Clinton Endorses 55 MPH Speed Limit |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. I happen to agree with her -- and you -- but... |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
134. Hard to swallow war too |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #134 |
153. I know... I know... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #134 |
154. Yeah, and if you moderate your crack intake, it'll solve your addiction to that, too. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
196. I find it hard to swallow too but am doing so some now. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. She also came out in favor of pateurized milk. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. And kittens. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
46. No! Not kittens!?! She'll lose the dog lobby! |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
84. She's more savvy than you realize: |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
56. I hear she's in favour of rainbows and puppies |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
99. Don't forget walks in the rain and sunsets. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. Does she ever drive herself anywhere? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. While in the WH she had an Olds cutlass in a garage she'd take out evidently. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Oh - they can read, but why bother? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. She stated she is aware this isn't possible in many areas |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
131. It means IMMEDIATE conservation. So many Dick Cheneys on this board! |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. Thanks for getting the point |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #138 |
152. I studied oil trade for years. So many here buy into Cheney's "personal virtue" argument. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #152 |
213. What's your beef with Putin? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wouldn't effect me, I rarely go over 55 now. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Same Here |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
98. That's fine. Now please stay in the right lane. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. I dirve in which ever lane I choose to drive in. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. If you're going to go 10-15 mph slower than the speed limit |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Well, You'll Be Happy To Know. . . |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #112 |
143. Right on, right lane. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
128. And some people piss on the toilet seat and don't clean it up. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
167. Then if someone creams you while you're going slow in the fast land.... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:47 AM Response to Reply #101 |
211. in illinois you can get a ticket for going 55 in the left lane |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #101 |
221. You Do That |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
5. Whoa, she's really sticking her neck out this time... nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. This is VERY unpopular. Good on her for endorsing it. I agree. 70mph is a waste.nt |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
53. So is more dead drivers!! |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Speed limits over 5MPH don't equate to more dead drivers. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
161. I drive at 75 or 80mph and will continue to do so. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. You are being very selfish. You are a hazard to other drivers and are helping drive up gas prices. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. No, I'm being a normal driver here in Florida |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Get up earlier, Mr. Greenhouse gases. Tell Osama Bin Laden I said 'hello'! nt |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #168 |
172. Why don't you pick me up and take me to work? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 06:25 AM Response to Reply #162 |
214. No MookieWilson, the gas guzzling cars that Detroit sticks us with drive up gas prices |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #214 |
215. There are a lot of cars that aren't gas guzzlers. No one forces people to buy SUVs.nt |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:48 AM Response to Reply #161 |
212. same here. |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
8. I can dig that. I normally drive around 60, so it's no biggie |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. there goes sammy hagar's endorsement |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
73. Yeah, why do I always think |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
120. LMAO |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
147. . |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. We are facing much worse issues right now - I wish she would focus! |
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gilpo (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Why does everything a candidate says have to be of earth-shattering importance? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. The media ignores all the big issues and all we have left are fragments |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Energy is a major issue -- good for her |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. This will float like a lead balloon in Colorado |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Yep, 55 here in Nebraska isn't going to fly, LOL! |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
200. EXACTLY what I was thinking. Takes me long enough to get to Omaha from Kearney |
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BarbaRosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Forget NM on this one |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
193. 55 mph on I-5 is forever, no way will CA go for it |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
12. Easy for her, easy for the big car companies... neither have to change.. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Wow! Someone's already trying to make her seem greedy and selfish for supporting this! |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. ok, I'll ask it so you don't have to. "Why do you hate Hillary?" |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. I'm surprised it took so long |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
57. poor Hillary. She's so hated and misunderstood. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
113. if your "opinion" wasn't so obviously colored by your |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. And thanks for proving his. |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #121 |
206. BING! And YOU win the prize for proving mine! Thank you, Forkboy! |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:32 AM Original message |
Far more useful would be to come out for increased public transit funding |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
183. Have either Obama or Edwards said anything about public transit? |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
13. n/t Dupe |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. Yes, god forbid we should raise CAFE standards |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Yep, You are exactly right, political cake covered with creamy frosting! |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
68. I know! You'd think she was running for office or something. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
106. Yes, apparently she's running for the GOP nomination |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. That would be reasonable |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
67. BINGO!!!! HAMMER MEET NAIL! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
103. good post |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. While I think 55 mph is a good thing, |
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Oglethorpe (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
141. Nixon, not Carter |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
17. Some people actually have to drive their cars |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
18. Thats a vote getter for sure |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
20. "No inconvenience for anyone"? Get real. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
26. The 55 mph speed limit wasn't all that bad back when we had it. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
205. Already like that here in NY |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
223. It was plenty bad here. (n/t) |
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Ryano42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
28. On the Coasts, sure... |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Youre right. Why not support fuel efficient cars and public transportation? |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
29. Nobody obeyed 55 last time |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
31. Does she wanna force car makers to build more efficient cars? |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
34. I find it interesting that something proven to reduce... |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. And driving 45 would have even more pluses. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
130. So many people here are saying it's like endorsing pasturisation of dairy products. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #130 |
158. Well, some people think Manhattan is the Entire Known Universe. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
36. You can tell she's |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
119. I couldn't agree more |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
37. Perhaps she can let Governor Corzine know that "91 is too fast". |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
41. HRC cannot win on this board |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I give her props where due. this is a non-starter though |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. No she can't.... |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
192. I absolutely agree. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
42. I've got a 64 mile commute in Souther California |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. So your one those people? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. are you saying I'm driving at granny speeds? If I go much faster, my car will explode! |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
97. Yea, pretty much |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #97 |
181. she killed her own mother? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 03:02 AM Response to Reply #181 |
209. Oh no, nothing like that |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #42 |
62. $7.50 of each hour you work to pay for this commute |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
93. 60 bucks a day? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Yes, the posters math was off |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #109 |
123. My math is not way off, yours is |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. None of which impact the direct point being made here |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. I AM talking TRUE COSTS - show how my math is wrong please |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
105. Or in the real world... |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #105 |
124. Yes, in the REAL WORLD, the TRUE COST is much higher |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
182. I get 36 mpg, and only go that far twice a week, so it's about 3 gallons or $10 each way |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
45. Not that she has a good chance in the general election |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
47. sorry, that would completely screw me |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Long commutes inexcusable |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. maybe you would like |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Let's do the math |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. I've done the math |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. .52 cents per mile IRS allowance |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I'm not spending |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Huh? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
107. are you familiar with real estate prices in some cities??? |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #107 |
135. word |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Keep the paid off home, dump the commute |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #137 |
145. I'll tell you what |
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Oglethorpe (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
146. Part of the problem |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. meh, you get used to it |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
149. "long commutes inexcusable" |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #149 |
160. rofl :) |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #149 |
165. Ok, rephrase that, Long commutes INSANE |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #165 |
174. Don't lecture me. I'd be the first to say we as a species are addicted to oil |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. Sacramento, Amtrak, Bike & Public Transit rider |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. I've taken that Sacramento Amtrak, many times. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #165 |
217. let me rephrase this then |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
49. Funding Petroleum Warlords |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
156. The Saudi Royal family, Osama bin Laden, Vladimir Putin. Hand your cash to them! nt |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
52. Do you remember what we did with the last prez that supported 55 mph? |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #52 |
72. Missed the point here |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. I couldn't drive 55 back then, and I'm sure not going to do it now. |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
76. You will when it costs enough |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
96. I'm so glad you're on the committee! |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
132. Moderation |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
157. Start with the auto companies FIRST and I might think about it. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #157 |
187. Aren't INDIVIDUALS the ones buying the gas-guzzlers? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #187 |
219. Sure, because that's what the car makers offer for sale. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
61. I thought that nonsense was behind us. |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
87. Earth Day |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
122. Im not talking about racing to red lights |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
63. It does not seem like she is really endorse it, but is trying to throw everyone a bone |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
64. Oh no! She just lost Georgia! |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
65. The accident rate increases as the difference between speeds increases. |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Thanks for helping make the SAFETY point |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
234. I'm pointing out that it is *more* dangerous to drive more slowly than the rest of the traffic |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
71. Another pressing issue by the Hillary campaign. And this "issue" I strongly oppose. (nt) |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Drive 55 = No Mideaset Oil |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
77. She voted against raising CAFE STANDARDS |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. 2006 Toyota Corolla - 40 MPG @ 55 MPH |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. The Republicans and the Michigan Democrats blocked the |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
78. Yeah, punish us all before punishing Big Oil. - n/t |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Punish Big Oil - reduce their income |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. You really think that will reduce their income? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #89 |
140. A 55 mph limit has nothing to do with punishing or not punishing them. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
80. If Bill had concerns, why did he sign the 55MPH repeal in the first place? |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Republican congress, |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Even when Bill was wrong, he was right |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Did Clinton do that? I seem to recall the limits raising |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
90. NYC and suburbs don't have anything higher than 55. I believe the highest |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
91. Can someone explain how driving no more than 55 miles an |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. it varies between vehicle |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. cool website |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
110. it does not save you 50% |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. Thanks |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
92. So, this is all based on a response to a question 11 months ago? |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
94. If this is true, she is now toast in the West |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
95. I can only drive, 55... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
100. I like 65 |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
108. I will only support a 55 speed limit if they let us drink beer in the car to alleviate boredom |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
111. Geez, this story is nearly a year old |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. And it's a lukewarm, conditional endorsement- not a proposal.n/t |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
117. how about holding gas companies accountable? |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #117 |
129. How about holding consumers accountable |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
118. It's official, she lost |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. So she can't win no matter what... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Has she made any statements about going after car manufacturers? |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #125 |
142. I was being semi sarcastic |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 02:09 AM Response to Reply #142 |
207. ah |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
136. Well, she just lost my vote |
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aztc (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. 55 MPH = Incentive for more rail, better cars |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #139 |
148. Interesting discussion. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #139 |
163. You know what would be an incentive for more rail? Lower prices and better service |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #139 |
179. Rail? Where? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #136 |
155. You like driving up prices and subsidizing the Saudi Royal family, Osama BL and VladPutin?nt |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #136 |
169. OK, OK |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
144. I agree with her, but this will hurt her west of the Mississippi... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
151. Just another reason she's going to get clobbered in the California Primary. |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
159. sammy hagar will not be happy |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
164. I would like Hillary to come over here (Tampa) |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
170. How about DriveASmallerCar.org |
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Saphire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
171. Maybe she's never been to west Texas.....55 is just so wrong out here. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #171 |
178. And Colorado. And Kansas. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #178 |
194. And parts of Minnesota |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
173. oh god foot meet mouth |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. And yet, she's terrified to speak out against the Iraq War. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
180. People will just ignore this law |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
184. Bullshit.. she should advocate for better fuel efficiency standards... |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
185. 300 miles in every direction of nothing but barren wasteland |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. West Texas ? Like around Alpine or there abouts I'm guessing ? -nt |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #186 |
202. ever hear of area 51? n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #185 |
216. panhandle of texas. right there with you. i would like to see stats last time they had 55 |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
188. Good. Brilliant. If DK or Obama had done this, people here would be swooning. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #188 |
191. Bull. Obama comes up with this |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. I would actually compliment him on it. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. It's not a good idea. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. I imagine it'll be very problematic when the oil runs out... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #199 |
226. So what the heck do we do? |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
189. It takes you longer to get places, and you use less gas? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #189 |
198. It does use less gas |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #189 |
203. Yes |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #203 |
224. EXCEPT, the efficiency of an internal combustion engine is also nonlinear... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #224 |
229. That all depends on the gear ratios |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Not so much gear ratios; BMEP is dependent on engine load. |
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veness (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
190. Thanks for the Drive 55 project, aztc! n/t |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
201. Ugh! Might as well tell people that she is going to take their guns! |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
204. Not all vehciles are most efficient at 55mph |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #204 |
218. Agree. My car is most efficient at 47 mph in moving mass from Pt A to B |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
208. She just killed her campaign**nm |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:29 AM Response to Reply #208 |
210. I drive for a living. This would kill me! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
220. Most new cars get best MPG around 58 to 62 mph |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
222. Anybody who wants to drive 55 right now can get in the right lane |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
225. SCREW THAT!! |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
227. Out of touch. |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
228. Clueless. That WILL NOT go over in the mid west and western states. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #228 |
231. Or the South. |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
232. Hillary can kiss my ass |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
233. Base the MPH limit on highway topology and usage density. |
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