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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:47 PM
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On Geithner, the Republicans are really going to be disappointed
AIG said in a draft of a regulatory filing that the insurer paid banks, which included Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Societe Generale SA, 100 cents on the dollar for credit-default swaps they bought from the firm. The New York Fed crossed out the reference, according to the e-mails, and AIG excluded the language when the filing was made public on Dec. 24, 2008. The e-mails were obtained by Representative Darrell Issa, ranking member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The New York Fed took over negotiations between AIG and the banks in November 2008 as losses on the swaps, which were contracts tied to subprime home loans, threatened to swamp the insurer weeks after its taxpayer-funded rescue. The regulator decided that Goldman Sachs and more than a dozen banks would be fully repaid for $62.1 billion of the swaps, prompting lawmakers to call the AIG rescue a “backdoor bailout” of financial firms.

“It appears that the New York Fed deliberately pressured AIG to restrict and delay the disclosure of important information,” said Issa, a California Republican. Taxpayers “deserve full and complete disclosure under our nation’s securities laws, not the withholding of politically inconvenient information.”

‘Officially Recused’

Geithner was “officially recused from matters dealing with specific companies” at the New York Fed after his nomination for Treasury Secretary on Nov. 24, 2008, and “began to insulate himself weeks earlier in anticipation of his nomination,” said Meg Reilly, a Treasury spokeswoman. Geithner, who was tapped by President Barack Obama, took the Treasury job January, 2009. Mark Herr, a spokesman for New York-based AIG, declined to comment.

Issa requested the e-mails from AIG Chief Executive Officer Robert Benmosche in October after Bloomberg News reported that the New York Fed ordered the crippled insurer not to negotiate for discounts in settling the swaps. The decision to pay the banks in full may have cost AIG, and thus taxpayers, at least $13 billion, based on the discount the insurer was seeking.

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This is the RW yanking people's chains again. The fact that Geithner recused himself was mentioned many times during his hearing.

Frank Says Fed’s Role in AIG Is ‘Troubling,’ Supports Hearings

January 07, 2010

By Alison Vekshin and Peter Cook

Jan. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Representative Barney Frank said the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s decision to tell American International Group Inc. to limit disclosures on payments to banks is “troubling” and said he supported holding congressional hearings on the issue.

The U.S. House of Representatives last month approved legislation that would prevent the Fed from having the power to bail out companies such as AIG in the future, Frank said today in a Bloomberg Television interview.

“The whole power that the Fed used in that case is gone,” said Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

AIG, the New York-based insurer, submitted to the New York Fed a draft of a regulatory filing showing it paid banks, including Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Societe Generale SA, 100 cents on the dollar for credit-default swaps they bought from the firm. The New York Fed crossed out the reference and AIG dropped the language in a December 2008 filing, e-mails between the company and the regulator show. The e-mails were obtained by Representative Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

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Still, there couldn't be a better time for an investigation, which may help to strengthen rgualatory reform and expose the real criminals.

Get it done.




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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:49 PM
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1. Proud to be the first unrec. nt
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:51 PM
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3. Proud to be the second.
Fuck the failed elf dentist!

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:53 PM
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5. Proud to be the 3rd
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:43 PM
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19. OMG! We're having a convention?
;) :party:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:09 PM
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6. Doesn't matter
Doesn't change reality.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:51 PM
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2. Follow the NY fed on twitter lol
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:52 PM
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4. LOL
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 04:55 PM by AllentownJake
Geithner is a criminal. The more that comes out about AIG, the worse he looks and this occurred before he was nominated....back in September/October. The more that comes out about Treasury actions this year (tax rule rewrites) the worse he looks.

I hope they haul him out of his office in hand cuffs.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:14 PM
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7. "Geithner is a criminal."
Hyperbole.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:18 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:21 PM
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9. Your wishful thinking has amounted thus far to
FAIL!

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:23 PM
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10. Geithner is the second least popular person in the administration
I think Larry polls slightly lower.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:27 PM
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11. Unpopularity doesn't equal criminal. n/t
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:58 PM
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29. No, but telling AIG to lie about what they were doing to the public IS a crime.
.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:40 PM
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26. "this occurred before he was nominated....back in September/October." No.
The e-mails span five months starting in November 2008 and include requests from the New York Fed to withhold documents and delay disclosures. The correspondence includes e-mails between AIG’s Shannon and attorneys at the New York Fed and its law firm, Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP.


True enough, the first e-mail was on November 2, 2008, a few weeks prior to his nomination. But none of it was in September or October.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:27 PM
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12. It's clear that there is more than Republicans that are disappointed in the truth
:popcorn:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:29 PM
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13. No.
I think it's still just Republicans.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:02 PM
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31. Distinction without a difference
:popcorn:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:31 PM
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14. Is there no crime you won't defend..
so long as the criminal has a (D) next to this name?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:32 PM
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15. Is there no distortion you won't engage in? n/t
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:38 PM
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16. Is there no end to the rhetorical flourishes?
Geithner and Summers were bad choices. Eventually, Obama is gonna have to man up and realize that.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:40 PM
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17. That doesn't make him a criminal.
People have gotten so used to making noise that they no longer care to hear the facts.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:51 PM
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20. Yes, many people can't bear to hear the facts so they stick their fingers in their ears
and talk about how sweet smelling the fertilizer is.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:54 PM
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21. Some people just
"stick their fingers in their ears" and then make up shit.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:17 PM
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23. Instead of insisting the sky is clear and blue, it might behoove you to understand
what this anger is about. Geithner is one of the BIG reasons people are mad. Wall Street never even got its hands slapped for bringing down the economy with trash derivatives. At least in the 1980s when Michael Milkin and crowd used junk bonds to swindle people, there was a real hearing and some real reforms, specifically the Corporate and Auditing Accountability, Responsibility, and Transparency Act of 2002 (aka Sarbanes-Oxley).

" The bill gives the SEC more government funding and greater powers including general oversight and enforcement authority over Public Company Accounting Oversight Board and requires the SEC to report to Congress "the extent of off-balance sheet transactions and the use of special purpose entities."

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10122007/sec.html

Unfortunately, all this current scandal has brought us is a bill in the House that will GUARANTEE tax-payer dollars WITHOUT a Congressional vote to WALL STREET when they tank the economy again. There is NO reform of derivatives and an extremely weak "Consumer Protection Agency" bill that leaves much about banking services exempt.

Why don't you do some real research and find out why people who actually read more than just talking points (for either party) are really angry?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:29 PM
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24. "Wall Street never even got its hands slapped for bringing down the economy with trash derivatives."
Is there something stopping Congress from investigating the cause of the crisis or demanding a Justice Department investigation?

What does your Geithner have to do with the crisis?

"Why don't you do some real research and find out why people who actually read more than just talking points (for either party) are really angry?"

Some people need to stop trying so hard to create narratives to accuse people of being involved in scandals, like trying to sqeeze a square peg into a round hole.

There are plenty of people to blame or accuse of criminal wrongdoing for the financial crisis, Geithner isn't one of them.



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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:35 PM
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25. "What does your Geithner have to do with the crisis?" Are you serious??
Geithner was the head of the NY Fed during the economic meltdown, and not only did he NOT regulate (as he should have) but he allowed AIG to essentially money launder for other Wall Street firms. You need to read the article and you need to do some research on Geithner.

No wonder you have no understanding. You don't know who the players are.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:45 PM
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27. Your response says nothing.
What is Geithner charged with doing? What hand did he have in the failed policies and actions of the Bush administration.

You may need to step back and think about why you're trying to pin the financial crisis on Geithner. It's illogical.


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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:56 PM
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28. My response tells you that Geithner was the head of the NY FED and he allowed AIG to essentially
money launder. Now if you don't get why that is a crime, there's nothing I can do to help you.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:59 PM
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30. "he allowed AIG to essentially money launder"
More fact-free claims.




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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:10 PM
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33. Read the article, if you can understand it.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 02:39 AM
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35. Do you know what securities fraud is?
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:41 PM
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18. Hopefully soon. nt.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:57 PM
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22. Republicans Disappointed?
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 05:58 PM by Jeff In Milwaukee
About half of DU is having a cow over this news.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:04 PM
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32. In a related story, Nation braces for shortage of Dramamine nt
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:16 PM
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34. one of the biggest wealth transfers in US history and people here defend him,wonderful
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