It is all unfounded rumor, but how would you feel about Rahm Emanual leaving the administration?

[Stinky The Clown]

[nightrain]

1. delighted. Take Zeke along.

[Faryn Balyncd]

19. 2+

[doc03]

2. I would say don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

3. +6.02x10^23

But it won't happen - Obama doesn't do that type of thing to the entitled class.

[SharonAnn]

17. Perhaps it's Rahm's choice. He wants to makemore money!

[pscot]

4. I'll be heartbroken

of course.

[StarfarerBill]

5. Goodbye and good riddance.

[dflprincess]

6. It might depend on who replaced Rahm

if it was just another DLCer, my joy would be short lived.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Billy Tauzin

I read that he's a close pal of Obama's these days... and has been very effective...

[Sebastian Doyle]

7. He should be the first one out the door.

Followed by Geithner and Summers.

[babylonsister]

8. What do you think he did wrong? He was hired for his chops, and no

one really knows his influence. I think he was a brilliant selection.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. Why do you ask?

I didn't think the OP implied any particular point of view.

[ima_sinnic]

38. yeah, there was nothing "wrong" with rahmbo telling everyone to kiss Lieberman's ass

too bad "his chops" can't be used to serve We The People instead of the billionaire welfare queens--and Obama seems to have no problem agreeing with that script.

[truedelphi]

49. And not much wrong with his insistence that

Anyone wanting a seat at the table where health care "reform" was being carved out should fork over $ 30K first.

And then there is that thing of Rahm never having met a progresssive that he liked...

Though I am sure he had a lot to say about encouraging Obama to "act like a progressive" when he camapigned for the Oval Office.

[ima_sinnic]

52. ?? I hadn't heard about the $30K payola--do tell?

he is one sorry m*f*er. what a slimeball.

[truedelphi]

59. There were probably half a dozen OP's abt the 30K requirement.

Back over the summer. Probably have one or two of them on my HD.

Today is the wedding anniversary and I won't be on DU too much, but maybe can research them Mon AM.

[ima_sinnic]

60. I did miss huge chunks of time here at DU over the summer

bought a house at the end of June and spent most of the summer outdoors clearing brush (really!) and getting involved in things other than constant reports of teabagger crap. It was too disheartening watching things devolve.

I can research it, thanks.

congratulations on your anniversary!

[TheBigotBasher]

10. Worried about where he would en up and why.

If I was Obama, I would have done exactly the same thing and hired every Clinton extremist going. They would have an agenda to deliver, mine. I think he should have hired Nelson and Liberman too.

Left in Congress they remain an enemy.

[Terra Alta]

11. I would be overjoyed.

Just as long as he is replaced by a progressive, and not another moderate. I don't see Obama doing that though so I'm not going to get my hopes up.

[CoffeeCat]

12. I'd like to think...

...that the dust-up about Geithner and the rumors about Rahm's departure--are the beginning
of Obama saying, "Enough of you scum-sucking DLC neocon wannabees. I'm doing things my
way now and you guys are the first to go. I'm the President, and this time around--I'll
choose my own Chief of Staff and my own Treasury Secretary. The criminal cabal running
this country is about to get schooled by this President."

It's my fantasy that I enjoy while I'm eating bon bons in the bubble bath--and you can't
take it away from me!

[nightrain]

22. LOL. Kinda reminds me of Bush's claim of being "The Decider", with

Cheney actually running more of the show. It would be great if Obama could find that inner assertiveness and be less afraid of actual conflict/difference, and stop side-stepping conflict, but actually to deal with it. That's my main disappointment. I think he wants to please those holding "power" way too much and has forgotten how to be the community organizer/agitator/changer.

[Howler]

42. Yey CoffeeCat!!!!!! LOL!!!!

Mind if I share it??????:)

[Rapanui1]

13. goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out

goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out. If Rahm does not go outnoe, Obama will after 2012 because the buck can only stop so many times.

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. They are doing better than any other god damn people in the world could.

Who would you put in there? Ralph fucking Nader??

[Stinky The Clown]

18. I just asked .....

..... geeeeze. Why the 'tude?

[Hawkowl]

25. Howard Dean

And you sir, have either extremely low standards or very little imagination.

[girl gone mad]

56. If there's any truth to what you say..

the human race is doomed.

[Jackpine Radical]

16. Well, since you ask...

:toast: :party: :beer: :bounce: :party:

[roguevalley]

20. I would do a backflip if I could.

[tinrobot]

21. I would hope he leaves in the same unmarked van as Geithner

[Ildem09]

23. Rumor is he will try and take hizzoner

Rahm is egocentric enough to think he can take on The Emperor of Chicago hizzoner Mayor Daley? I think not.

[Chisox08]

27. I would actually vote for King Daley over him

[Hawkowl]

24. Cartwheels

Ever seen a 200 pound middle aged man do cartwheels down the middle of the street?

[madrchsod]

26. why i`d jump for joy! or maybe i jump for mary...

[denem]

28. Delighted, He's a dud.

Twisting arms became 'What do you want'.

[Incitatus]

29. I would be disappointed

that he didn't leave sooner

[Hippo_Tron]

30. Don't really care

Well actually not entirely because as a political junkie it interests me who serves in that role. But I won't be happy or sad. The Chief of Staff serves at the pleasure of the President, end of story.

[johnaries]

31. Honestly? With mixed emotions. And here's why:

Rahm does not "set policy". He has an administrative job - to make sure everyone else in the WH does their job. He has a reputation as a "whip-cracker" and someone who is a perfectionist and results-oriented. Someone who runs a "tight ship". The Yang to Obama's Yin.

And so, I would be sad because I can't help but think that the reason for his leaving is politically motivated and has nothing to do with his actual job performance - since his attackers don't seem to understand what his job role as an administrator actually is. Anyone who has been in management will understand what I am talking about. I can't help but believe that he is a victim of opinion rather than being judged on his actual job performance. Again, anyone in management who has been "squeezed" between the upper level policy-setters and the boots-on-the-ground people will know what I'm talking about. Until you've actually been in that position - your opinion is purely rhetorical.

At the same time, he did shoot off his mouth too much. He had a Press Secretary. He should have referred all questions to the Press Secretary. Maybe he was trying to comply with the NEW (at least in contrast to Bushco) concept of Access and Transparency. No matter how good he is at administration, he is not good at public communication. Therefore, in that respect, he FAILED in letting his Press Secretary do his job. By doing so, he actually undermined his Press Secretary.

For this reason, it makes me question his effectiveness as an administrator. Worse, it undermines his effectiveness. So, maybe he should retire.

Added to Rahm's problems, Obama (the one who actually sets policy) believes in "honest debate". I do, too. Unfortunately, Republican's do not. Honest debate means that all sides of an issue are debated and a compromise can be reached that benefits all. Balance. That's what the Founding Fathers wanted - Balance. Obama is trying to restore that balance. He took a page from Lincoln's playbook and tried to "balance" his staff with those with opposing views - in order to "challenge" him to achieve true balance.

What Obama didn't count on was that the "opposition" didn't want balance, but wanted to restore themselves to power at "any cost" and decided that the American People should pay the cost. All they want is power. And I can evidence this with all the "conflicting information" coming from "WH Sources" that is confusing the message and making a concerted effort to Split the Democratic Party.

If Obama is guilty of anything, he is guilty of trying to do the "right thing".

But - back to Rahm. If he is forced out of office, it is for all the wrong reasons. So, yes - whether I agree with him or not I am ashamed of My country for forcing him out. I'll agree some of it is him as I pointed out above, but the rest is just the kind of politics that makes me "shake my head" at the country that I otherwise love.

[PDJane]

32. well, if they announced that they were replacing him with

Elizabeth Warren? Woooooooooooohooo!!! Paul Krugman? Yes. James K. Galbraith? Maybe. Thomas Palley? Yep.

[Blasphemer]

33. There are a few people he needs to take with him... nt

[Double T]

34. I feel as GREAT as I did when chris dodd announced he was not running for reelection.

Only problem will be when BOTH become lobbyists.

[lamp_shade]

35. Very disappointed.

[notesdev]

36. I'd feel better about it

if he were fired at 30,000 feet without a parachute

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[ima_sinnic]

39. I'm sure the vaccum would quickly be filled by another anti-progressive, so I wouldn't care

the DLC has no shortage of fake democrats hostile to We The People, all too eager to ensure that the transfusion of blood from us to the CEOs is maintained and Obama seems to have picked that crowd to surround himself with (along with his other "rivals"--everybody EXCEPT progressives), so what difference would it make?

Van Jones (one progressive out of a handful appointed) was kicked out instantly because he had the temerity to have added his name to a 9/11Truth petition and *gasp* was associated with a "Marxist" group back in the 90s (oh the horror--sheesh)--he even said something bad about a poor widdle repuke once, too--and Glenn Beck, who apparently has more influence over Obama than those who voted for him, objected to that, so VJ became persona non grata--did Obama say, he has my full support? I didn't think so. But Timothy Geithner the criminal tax cheat and con artist has the "full support" of Obama -- go figure. Our opinion of the COS has no bearing on anything, any more than it does on any other decisions by this administration.

[Nay]

40. "Don't let the door hit..." etc., etc.

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[undeterred]

43. ...

:toast: :party: :applause: :party: :toast:

[mistertrickster]

44. Hallelujah! nt

[berni_mccoy]

45. Indifferent. On one hand

I'd think that he'd been unjustly targeted by a witch hunt.

On the other hand, if it reduces political friction for the Obama administration, then it may be the sacrifice of the one for the many.

[change_notfinetuning]

46. I'd love to see him leave the White House, but to come back here, to Chicago,

not so much. Maybe you can find something to keep him busy out there in Maryland. Just a wild guess, but I'll bet he'd be an effective lobbyist.

[gleaner]

47. I wouldn't be shedding tears ....

He does not enhance the dubious luster of this administration, but on the other hand he is not Svengali pulling Obama's strings and forcing him to act and decide as he does. The good news would be that Emanual would be gone. The bad news is that it would still be the same old Obama.

[LoZoccolo]

48. Rahm Emanuel's a pretty cool guy.

Eh fights Republicans and doesn't afraid of anything.

[Union Yes]

54. Complete with an icy heart. nt

[girl gone mad]

58. it's deja vu all over again.

[Myrina]

50. ... the only thing that would make me happier is ...

... if he was replaced by Howard Dean. :patriot:

[donheld]

51. Delighted unless he's going to be replaced with someone as bad or worse.

[Union Yes]

53. Roll out the barrels... nt

[TorchTheWitch]

55. What difference would it make?

Obama would just replace him with someone equally disgusting and corporatist. Why is it that people just don't seem to get that Rahm does Obama's bidding? That's his damn job and it's all too clear that Obama likes how he does it and chose him for all the reasons we hate him.

[winyanstaz]

57. I think that would be a dang good idea

[Spirochete]

61. I'd prefer

he left the planet, but I'll take what I can get...

[WT Fuheck]

62. Par-tee!

Take Summers and Geithner with you Rahm!

:party: :toast: B-) :crazy: :beer: :thumbsup: :kick: :loveya: :hug: :grouphug: :fistbump: :headbang: :yourock: :woohoo: :applause: :rofl: :patriot: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump:

[Odin2005]

63. I would be ecstatic.

[scarletwoman]

64. I've loathed the man for many years - LONG before Obama was a gleam in the DLC's eye.

However, unless Rahm is dispatched to the outer reaches of the galaxy, I rather doubt his leaving the C.O.S. position will make much difference. He'll still be around *somewhere* working his special magic to make over the Democratic party into an obedient servant of the Plutocracy.

And judging by most of Obama's inner circle so far, his replacement would be of the same general ilk, so I very much doubt anything would be gained by Rahm leaving anyway.

sw

[truedelphi]

66. I agree. Still and all, if the Lizard People came for him. this household

Would be celebrating. (Especially if they took him back to his home planet.

[varelse]

65. He's not going to leave

I'm not going to fall prey to false hope.

Now, you know how I would feel if the miracle ever did happen.

[closeupready]

68. No - he will never leave that kind of power voluntarily, and Obama will not fire him, either.

n/t

[closeupready]

67. Ecstatic.

n/t

[Bluebear]

69. Eh doesn't afraid of fighting Republicans, eh is a cool guy!

:silly: