NY Times - "Giuliani’s Misstatement, but Stephanopoulos’s Red Face"

[TomCADem]

Hard to say what is worse. Rudy's forgetting September 11th (and the shoe bomber and Anthrax) in asserting that there were no terrorist attacks during George Bush's eight years or George Stephanapolous not challenging Rudy's lie. Thus just proves once again how the corporate media repeatedly gives Republicans free pass. Bush gets no criticism following the shoe bomber incident a few months after 9/11, but the media gets on the fire everyone bandwagon with President Obama AND romanticizes the Bush years by comparison:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/09/business/media/09abc.html

It was a moment that seemingly called for a follow-up question.

On “Good Morning America” on ABC Friday, the former New York City mayor, Rudolph W. Giuliani, stated that “we had no domestic attacks under Bush; we’ve had one under Obama.”

The misstatement — which omitted the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, which occurred nearly eight months after President Bush took office — was roundly criticized Friday, even by some of ABC’s correspondents. “Even if you assume he meant post-9/11 this is hard to justify,” Rick Klein, the primary author of ABC’s online political memo The Note, wrote on Twitter.

But at the time, the interviewer, George Stephanopoulos, let Mr. Giuliani’s assertion go unquestioned. The segment ended a minute later with a joke about the day’s snowfall in New York City.

[Nikki Stone1]

1. George should have called him on this.

If this were a one-time deal, I could believe that Rudy misspoke, but considering statements by Dana Perino, there seems to be a pattern, and George should have jumped on Rudy.

[Lil Missy]

6. And Matlin, and that cross-eyed guy.

[donheld]

8. George should have smacked him upside his head!

[Matariki]

11. Sort of like they are trying to rewrite history -

or hypnotize their teabag followers into repeating their 'misstatement'.

or trying to make us all crazy.

[spanone]

29. sort of...?????

[Matariki]

32. Rhetorical device...

the truth is obvious.

[Born_A_Truman]

2. Slack jawed that GS just let it slide ...

but not really surprised unfortunately. We haven't had real journalists for quite awhile.

[tishaLA]

3. I'm upset with Stephanopolous, but I'm more upset that

a demonstrable liar like Giuliani gets booked on these shows repeatedly. There he was later in the day to clarify on Wolf! The fact is, this should do him in--Rachel said it tonight and I agree with her--but it won't because we have a bootlicking press that worships Rudy's happy faced fascism.

[Libertas1776]

4. Way to go

George Stepha...Stepha...Stephanop...um...Snuffleupagus...whatever the hell is name is. That's some real journalistic integrity you got there :sarcasm: :eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

5. I'm still waiting for Stephanopoulos to apologize

for treating Barack Obama, the candidate, as not patriotic enough
during those fucked up debates.

So this doesn't suprise me the least.
Initially, he used to go out of his way to appear to be "objective"
considering that he came from the Clinton Admin. Problem is,
at some point, he crossed over to the other side for good.

As for Guliani, he's about the same as a clown in my book...
why he still has a microphone, I don't know.

[malaise]

12. Joe Scum didn't apologize either

Why is only Stephanopoulos under attack when Rudy of 9/11 was also on Morning Joe?

[G_j]

7. OMFG

kick me for saying it but,
first they L/MHOP, now it never happened at all.
Repeat, repeat, no terrorist attacks on Bush's watch, no terrorist attacks on Bush's watch,
it must be true!

[tblue]

9. 100% Orwellian. Mayor 9/11 omits 9/11?

Stephanopolous should be fired. If he's a journalist, I'm Lady Gaga. And The Ghoul should banned from public speaking. He's done. Couple of asses. This constant blaming of Obama for terrorism and deifying Bush for "keeping us safe" is about the foulest, most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. How do they continue to get away with this shit?

This is coordinated, folks. They're trying to make the American people believe 9/11 happened on Clinton's watch.

Ridiculous.

[CTyankee]

14. Of course it is. It is the Big Lie.

They know that it pays to tell a Big Lie rather than a small one. There will always be believers and who knows, with enough GS types inthe media who don't challenge it, well, it becomes the "truth" somehow...

[Berry Cool]

27. Hey, they figure it happened eight years ago...pretty soon everyone will forget!

You know how memories get blurry...that's what they're counting on. Wait until 20 years from now, when the generation of illiterates they're raising now becomes the voters of tomorrow...you know, the ones for which all this becomes stuff they read or didn't read in a book...they'll be so illiterate and unknowledgeable of historical facts that when polled, a majority of them WILL say they believe that 9/11 happened during the Clinton administration. And that when it happened, Clinton didn't even respond right away because he was shtupping somebody's pet goat. At least that's what they dimly recall from their high school history class.

[Drunken Irishman]

35. I can see it now...

Clinton sat by and let our country get attacked, didn't respond and left office in disgrace. Lord Bush came to power and quickly launched a war on terrorism and saved us from any future attacks. :eyes:

[ima_sinnic]

13. how could rudy ghouli9/11ani forget the whole centerpiece of his campaign(s)?

it wasn't that long ago that "mayor 9/11" invoked 9/11 and his "heroic" role in that tragedy--I mean, every other word out of his yap was "9/11," esp. during the presidential primaries, when the idiot wannabe climbed over the dead bodies of 9/11 reminding us that we should never forget it. Is he now coming down with fucking Alzheimer's? what a sorry sack of shit--sheesh, turn off the tube, folks, if that's who they're showing, what a waste of oxygen.

[rhett o rick]

43. He didnt forget. It is a propaganda tactic. nt

[seabeyond]

15. and the sniper that terrorized people on the east coast. nt

[NNN0LHI]

16. Thugs know there are young impressionable minds that don't remember what happened

They were kids in 2001.

Don

[Enrique]

17. the NYT's red face for calling it a "misstatement"

I think there's enough grounds for calling what Rudy said a lie.

At the end of the article they say "some tie it to what Dana Perino said..." but what about you? Do you tie it to that?

What about what Mary Matalin said recently? What about what Rudy himself said just the other day?

They're rewriting history and you're helping them do it by looking the other way. Just like how they tied Saddam to 9/11, and the media didn't call them out, still doesn't, and then polls show that people believe the lie, big time.

[City Lights]

18. George is a corporate stooge.

Letting GOPers lie to his viewers is what he's paid to do.

[brooklynite]

19. If Stephanapoulos is a "corporate stooge" of "corporate media", why did he publicly apologize?

"Whatever the Mayor meant, it’s not what he said. All of you who have pointed out that I should have pressed him on that misstatement in the moment are right. My mistake, my responsibility."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/01/giuliani-update.html

[zonkers]

21. It should have been more of an apologly, one which included the statement of the correct facts

regarding in relation to this misstatement along with tougher self admonishiment regarding his underwhelming reaction. He is a journalist and abandoned all journalistic standards. Simply saying "my bad" is weak.

[City Lights]

30. Because "the public" called him out on letting Rudy's lies go unchallenged.

Do you think he would have issued a statement if the public hadn't made a stink? I don't. He's supposed to be keeping his viewers informed. Instead, we're informing him. Pathetic.

[rhett o rick]

36. He appologizes AFTER getting pushed on it. He does it all the time and will continue in the future.

He is the corporate media. He cant relate to us peons.

[spanone]

20. fuck his red face...this statement went out across america UNCHALLENGED...a boldfaced LIE

[bridgit]

22. Yep, and having a '4th estate' paying it's mortgages & kids tuition to ivy league universities...

by way of cozy access to insane-ass two-faced republican liars is the norm that has dragged America's free press into irrelevance

[fascisthunter]

26. and it's not the first time shit has gone unchallenged by him

[City Lights]

33. +1! nt

[EFerrari]

23. As if the NYTs has any moral high ground on this issue.

Geeze.

[GeorgeGist]

24. Rudy lied ...

again.

[rhett o rick]

37. Is it a lie when the person actually believes it? We are dealing with people like him that are in a

parallel universe. They think what they say is golden. This is covered very well in Bob Altemeyer's "The Authoritarians".

[Fumesucker]

25. Rudy G... A noun, a verb and.... nothing. n/t

[dajoki]

28. It burns me up I tell you. it just extremely burns me up n/t

[asdjrocky]

31. Stephanopoulos is the one that should really be ashamed here.

He's been shown for what he really is.

[rhett o rick]

40. Why ashamed? He is doing exactly what he is paid for. He is a toady to the wealthy ruling class. nt

[Imagevision]

34. Stephanapolous simply wanted NO part of the follow up, carried too much controversy these are

the same people who sold us WMD's in Iraq without a challenge - it's hard to believe any of government/MSM these days, their in bed together.

[spanone]

38. it's one thing to lie on an obscure cable political show, it's another to LIE on GMA

this is equivalent to saying john f kennedy wasn't assassinated in dallas for fuck's sake

this is where a lot of america gets it's news....

[rhett o rick]

39. Stephanopoulos like most CorpMedia are not journalists, but toadies for the rich and powerful. nt

[TomCADem]

41. I Wonder Whether He Was Better Today On This Week

The guest list for the Sunday News programs is not very promising. Mostly Republicans and conservative Democrats. Coincidence?

[rhett o rick]

42. He might be a little better, but he was hired because he is a toady not a journalist.

You cant make a journalist out of a toady. CorpMedia is full of them.