AP: Psycho republican dad has mom & kids threatened with rape and sodomizing by strangers

[TwixVoy]

For those who don't know about this..... it's been going around Youtube.

Apparently an angry republican dad is mad that a family member took a toy gun away from a kid on Christmas day.

So what does he do to that family member? He puts up a Youtube video with her information and has strangers come to her house and threaten her and her kids with rape.

How much do you want to be this guy sits at home on the internet talking about what a big man he is with his guns? And he does this to a family member and her kids. Republican family values in action folks.

Watch the Associate Press interview this sick fuck. This is NOT the video he posted - but the Associated Press news report about it in which they interview him and the person who now has psychos looking for her. He shows no remorse and basically just tells the AP "she asked for it".

My only other question is - how many OTHER sick fucks do we have in this nation? What kind of sick fucks go to a strangers house and threaten her and her kids with rape because of a fucking Youtube video made by a republican nut job?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-iyOJgkkAU

[rcrush]

1. Looks like a new entry for www.republicansexoffenders.com

They really get around dont they?

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. How do we know he is a Republican?

The posted video said nothing about what his political affiliation is.

[JTFrog]

45. I don't know many democrats that are gonna get their panties in a wad for taking away a toy gun.

Then threaten to bring violence and rape to a woman over it.

Shit I could be way off base, but my money is still on republican. :shrug: :eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

46. And I don't think this story has any political implications at all

I know Democrats (some right here on DU) who are pro-gun.

This story is more about a silly family feud that started when this woman was accused of taking a child's Christmas present. That's all.

[JTFrog]

51. And I know this area of Indiana.

And let's not forget the video he posted of his 8 year old firing a gun.

Really, um... just a... um.... guess on my part. :shrug:

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. Democrats don't let their 8 year old kids fire guns?

[JTFrog]

53. What a ridiculous question.

If I could wager on it, I'd put everything I have in the bank on the guy being a Republican.

But since I have no way to prove it yet, I guess I'll just have to go with my gut on this one.

By the way, do you really expect to find out differently? Really?

[proud2BlibKansan]

54. I don't think we are going to find out either way

This is not a political story. Period. It's a silly family feud that spiraled out of control.

Now is the guy an asshole - you bet. Are Republicans assholes - of course.

[JTFrog]

68. Interesting teaparty link on his myspace page, political or not.

http://www.myspace.com/Dustjunky1

http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.friendmoods&friendId=56977586

December 17 post: http://lnk.ms/01b2l

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[Maru Kitteh]

64. "silly" ??????

Clearly we have a different understanding of the word silly. I have never found breaking and entering or the threatened rape of children "silly."

[proud2BlibKansan]

66. A silly family feud that spiraled out of control

It helps to read the whole sentence. :eyes:

[crim son]

2. Countless, I'm betting.

If somebody's kid was pointing his toy weapon at my son, I'd take the damned thing away too. Teach your kid how to use a gun responsibly, my ass. Fucking rednecks.

[liberalmuse]

3. Don't mess with their iron dicks.

And we wonder how we became a nation that tortures? There you go. The guy and his sick fucks for friends should all be in prison. Any man who threatens a woman and kids is not a fucking man and is beneath contempt. If it were my kids, I'd fucking hunt them down at their jobs and let everyone know the shit they've been up to.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

6. If only he'd actually done any of that.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. He did post the video and that was how the threats against her started

Then he pulled the video. Coward.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

20. Not saying that he was smart only that he didn't have her threatened.

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. No but if he hadn't posted that video, she wouldn't have been threatened

I'm not condoning what either one of these 'adults' did. But death threats and setting her house on fire are a bit over the top.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. If those things actually happened.

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. If they didn't this TV station needs to be fined for a false/fake report

GREENFIELD, Ind. -- A family feud playing out on YouTube has sparked death threats against a Hendricks County woman.

The squabble started when Greg Cox posted a video online that he said shows a distant relative, Delana Ward, stealing a toy gun from his son at a recent Christmas party, 6News' Joanna Massee reported.

The video shows Ward taking some wrapping paper, covering a toy gun and taking it away.

"I posted it online so the family would know next time something came up missing at one of their parties," Cox said.

But Ward denied stealing the gun, telling Massee that the boy was being obnoxious and pointing the gun at her son, so she took it and put it away.

The family quarrel quickly went global, with more than 42,000 people viewing the clip as of Thursday, and leaving dozens of comments on the site.

Ward said she's received a barrage of death threats and insults against her and her family since the video hit the Web.

"People are coming to my home, they're telling me they are going to rape me, murder me, sodomize my children," Ward said.

Cox said he bought a new toy gun for his son, even though an offer was made to give the original back. He said he wants an apology from Ward.

When asked if he would feel badly if something happened to Ward as a result of the video, Cox said, "The actions of strangers are exactly that."

Hendricks County Prosecutor Pat Baldwin said her office is looking into the case.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/22175690/detail.html

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

34. Why would the TV station be fined for reporting what she said?

[proud2BlibKansan]

36. Do you honestly believe it's just a coincidence that she is being threatened

and her house set on fire?

Come on, dude. You're smarter than that.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

37. So the fire investigators are done with their report? Do you have a link?

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[bbinacan]

4. I'm confused.

Where in the interview does it talk about him being a Repug? Did I miss something?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

5. Or him actually having someone threaten her or her kids or actual proof of that.

[bbinacan]

7. Exactly,

too many assumptions by the OP.

[TwixVoy]

22. her house was burned down

fuck... he was aware his video would solicit this response, and when asked by the AP told them he thought she deserved whatever happened to her.

He is the DIRECT INSTIGATOR of this act of violence. KNOWINGLY INCITING SOMEONE TO VIOLENCE IS JUST AS BAD AS DOING IT YOUR SELF.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

24. Do you have a link to the fire investigators report?

Last I heard it was still under investigation.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

40. Actually her house caught on fire. We have no idea if it was burned or if it was by whom.

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[K8-EEE]

8. They call them gun NUTS for a reason.

Guns are like gods to some people, and they tend to be very very paranoid and obsessed with violence, revenge etc. I do think it's like a cult or psychological disease.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. How do you know he is a Republican?

[EmeraldCityGrl]

38. Let's just say he's republicanesque.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

39. Why don't we just say he's a asshole regardless of his political leanings.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

41. That wouldn't be as much fun.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

42. Safer though.

In case he turns out to be a strong Democratic supporting union member whose a little of tilt, like many of my fellow firemen.

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. +1

Although I can sure make a case for Republican = Asshole. :)

[JTFrog]

50. About a 75% chance given the area this happened.

Greenfield, Indiana - 75% voted for Bush/Cheney

[proud2BlibKansan]

67. I too live in a red state he'll

But don't you dare call me a republican.

[AwakeAtLast]

10. HER HOUSE WAS BURNED LAST NIGHT

I am in Central Indiana and I just saw this on the 6:00 p.m. news about 10 minutes ago. There is no link on WRTV's website yet, but if I find one I will post it.

No one was injured, they were not home thank goodness.

What is wrong with people?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. I guess we'll have to wait and see was the cause of the fire was.

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. So far, all they know is it was "suspicious"

Fire investigators have not yet made a determination if the fire was arson, but said its origin is suspicious. Neighbors said they saw strange vehicles in the area all week.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/22195342/detail.html

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

30. As I said we'll have to wait and see what the fire investigators determine.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Here is some more info from what WAS posted on youtube before it was removed:

outube info:
Video showing an adult woman stealing a toy pistol from my son Matthew on 1/1/10 at a Christmas party at my cousins' house. The -ahem- rather large lady in red sneaks up behind him and after a few attempts, steals his toy gun from him. We looked for it for a long time. Matthew had tears in his eyes when he realized he had 'lost it'

What really happened was that the lady who stole it was angry that her son was not allowed to play with it. Matthew shared it with him for a while, but the child didn't want to give it back. My wife told him that it belonged to Matthew and that he had to give it back to him. This angered the kids' mom, so she told everyone that Matthew was hitting other kids with the toy. Well, when the kids are all opening their presents, she walks up behind Matthew and is picking up wrapping paper. She wads it up into a ball, and then unwraps it again and lays it down over Matthews' toy pistol, picking it up again with the trash and handing it off to others who were involved. She swore she had no idea where it was. Everyone involved watched a little 8 year old frantically search for his favorite Christmas gift, and said not a word.




At :06, Matthew is seen on the right in a black skeleton shirt.
1:26, Matthew is holding a toy shotgun, and his pistol is in his lap.
1:31, the thief approaches from behind Matthew, pretending to be interested in her childs' toys. (he is sitting right next to Matthew. For a second, she looks at her childs' present, then directly down at Matthews' toy gun in his lap.
1:42, the thief's niece points over to Matthew and says "The gun's right there Aunt Shelley, The gun's in his lap" As she points at Matthew. Immediately 'Aunt Shelley' makes a grab for it, but stops herself.
2:00 'Aunt Shelley' regains her composure, and prepares for another grab attempt.
2:02, Matthews' pistol is seen on the floor, right next to his right hand. Silencer and laser sight attached.
2:05, I (Santa) hand Matthew a present and he takes it over to where he was sitting, right next to his toy gun. The beast picks up her child's present and hands it to her niece and her bf.
2:12, 'Aunt Shelley" picks up some wrapping paper
2:19 'Aunt Shelley' tells her kid to go unwrap his present, and she crushes the wrapping paper into a tightly packed ball. Still glancing at Matthews Toy pistol, plainly visible on the floor in front of her.
2:30 'Aunt Shelley' places her hands on her fat hips and stares longingly at her prey, a kids Christmas toy.
2:34 'Aunt Shelley" Walks over to her Niece and her nieces bf and lets them know to be ready to intercept the goods.
2:41 The BEAST SPRINGS INTO ACTION, unwrapping the previously tight packed ball of paper and laying it ever so lovingly over the target.
2:47 she picks up some more paper and the one she just laid down, along with the toy gun.
2:50 'Aunt Shelley' quickly moves over to her helpers and passes off the toy gun to her co-conspirators.
3:09 The space where the toy pistol previously was is now empty!!! AMAZING!! At the same time, we see the two on the couch passing it to each other and hiding it.
3:12 'Aunt Shelley' walks away with the wadded paper, taking one last glance over her shoulder to be sure that the item is well hidden. We see the 2 on the couch whispering about the transfer.
3:21 On the couch we see a nice big HIGH FIVE for successfully depriving a child of his Christmas present. 'We are so crazy sometimes!!'
3:23 Have another look at the carpet where the gun was. It's LONG GONE.

http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?p=6049385

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. And here's the video

He removed it from youtube but it was posted here also:

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2010/1/woman-steals-kids-christmas-present-1611507

[AwakeAtLast]

15. Found the link

Woman's House Burns After YouTube Family Feud

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/22195342/detail.html

All I can say is, I'm glad I am not in that family. :scared:

[ohheckyeah]

16. There's just something wrong

with the expression "toy gun".

[Clintonista2]

17. Watched the video, doesn't say he's a republican.

Be more accurate with your headlines in the future.

[Tim01]

18. Did he ask anybody to threaten anybody? nt

[TwixVoy]

23. Give me your name and address

I will post a video on youtube saying you're a child molester. by your logic should anything happen to you I will not be at fault because I never directly asked anyone to hurt you

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

25. So you are saying that posting a video of someones actions are the same as slander?

[EmeraldCityGrl]

35. perfect.

:evilgrin:

[Tim01]

44. Granted he was an ass for posting the info.

Also I don't want my name and address published the way newspapers publish the names and addresses of handgun permit holders around here, for their own political agenda.
I would even go so far to say the guy probably deserves a good ass kicking for putting out the info.

But the woman helped this process along by stealing a kids toy. That is the kind of thing that makes people really furious. If she hadn't been caught stealing a kids toy, there wouldn't have been anything to make people so mad at her.
And the guy who posted the video of a lady stealing a kids toy, didn't set her house on fire or threaten to rape her. Those are strangers who are able to stay anonymous and therefore not be held accountable for their actions.

And like I said, the local newspapers already publish my name and address, in attempt to intimidate us CCW holders. What they actually do is give burglars a shopping list of houses to watch and rob when nobody is home.

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. Did you watch the video?

All you can see is the lady picking up the toy and putting it over to the side. She isn't stealing it. If she DID steal it, that's not in the video.

The guy, however DID post the video on youtube and calls her "fat" and also supplied her address and phone number. AND he took the video down. (Feeling guilty perhaps?)

So yes, he's an ass. She, however, perhaps not.

[Tim01]

56. My connection is too slow, I read the play by play.

And so people made all these threats and set her house on fire because she is fat? Or because she rearranged toys?

My name and address has already been published, lots of my friends too. Nobody has been threatened yet. But there is no video of us stealing toys on youtube.

You have to admit, that if she did nothing, the violent responses don't make add up.

[Odin2005]

19. OMFG!

LOCK THAT MONSTER UP!

[tabasco]

28. It's Obama's fault! n/t

[DeschutesRiver]

32. The family values ticket, indeed. n/t

[DeschutesRiver]

33. delete dup. nt

[marshall]

43. They're both wrong

The man should have been aware of the internet enough not to post a video with provocative content that exposed this woman to public threats and taunts. And the woman should not have stolen from a child--she should have either talked with the parents or removed her own child from the situation.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. How do you know she stole the toy?

The video doesn't show her stealing it.

[marshall]

55. It shows it and says it

It clearly shows the ruse she used. You can see her putting a wad of wrapping paper over the toy gun, picking it up all in one piece, and taking it to a far corner of the room. And it was not returned to the child at the end of the party--the woman apparantly still has it if you listen to what they say.

The woman's reasoning for doing this is that the child was pointing the toy at her child. But in the video nobody is paying any attention to it--it's just laying on the ground. Whatever obnoxious game the man's child played with it is over. So her excuse that she was stopping inappropriate play against her child doesn't make sense.

Likewise the man's excuse that he didn't know he was exposing the woman to public threats is insincere and he is wrong when he says he does not bear any responsibility.

These two people should have talked with each other rather than take the inappropriate actions they both did. In the first place the woman should have told the man she didn't approve of the toy gun being used in play against her child. Similarly when the man figured out by watching the video who snatched the missing toy he should have talked with the woman (or at most the other folks at the party) instead of dragging their dirty laundry out in the public streets of the internet.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. It doesn't show her stealing it, she just put it over to the side

IIRC, she hands it to another woman. How do we know that is not the kid's mom?

According to a report posted in this thread, she did talk to the man, and he refused to tell his kid to stop poking her kid with the gun.

IF she stole it she shouldn't have, but this man way overreacted by posting this video and her address, etc. Plus, he keeps referring to her as "fat".

[marshall]

58. At the end doesn't she say she offered to give it back to the boy?

Implying that she took it and still has it? But the man refused to take it back because he had since bought his child another one.

[proud2BlibKansan]

59. She did?

Sorry I guess I missed that.

[Kaleva]

63. An offer was made to return the toy gun but the man refused it as he had bought another one.

[marshall]

70. It sounds like the man had no idea what happened to the toy, until he saw the video

He was probably shocked to see that his lady relative had surreptitiously snatched the toy. She didn't tell the child or the father to stop bothering her child, she didn't hide the toy and bring it out when the party was over, she just TOOK it and hit it. Then she didn't even throw it out with the trash (as one might do with a toy one found totally inappropriate for a child)--rather she took it home with her and continues to keep it in her possession.

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[spoony]

60. True, but the former has far more serious ramifications. nt

[southernyankeebelle]

61. Whats the matter with you people? He has a right to teach his child how to kill

at an early age. You know like the child warriors in Rawanda. Only his kids will be called christains soldiers, that was makes it just right with his fellow teabaggers. What the hell is wrong in this country? I can't believe this man would encourage people to rape his relative and children. He should remember Karma.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

71. Why on earth would you comment without educating yourself on the facts?

[Electric Monk]

80. That might be parody? It gets pretty hard to tell these days.

Not my fault :/

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

81. I guess it could be who knows.

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[Kaleva]

62. Would like to see the video man posted before making a judgement on this

Haven't seen any evidence so far that the man in question is a Republican. He could easily be a Dem if he lived in my district.

[proud2BlibKansan]

69. I posted it up thread

But no there is nothing about political affiliation in the video.

[Kaleva]

65. Family has potential to have their own reality show.

Looks like the kids were having fun. Too bad the adults went and mucked it up. I don't have any sympathy for either the man or woman.

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